Find the Cartesian equation of a curve given the parametric equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the Cartesian equation of a curve given its parametric equations. The original poster focuses on a specific part of the problem and explores different approaches to derive the relationship between the variables.

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  • Participants discuss various methods to derive the Cartesian equation, including integration and manipulation of the parametric equations. Questions arise about the necessity of determining a constant value and the implications of different approaches on scoring in an exam context.

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There is an ongoing exploration of methods to arrive at the Cartesian equation, with some participants suggesting that certain approaches may lead to incomplete answers without specific values. The discussion reflects a mix of agreement and differing opinions on the evaluation of the proposed methods.

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Participants note that the problem is part of a larger question and that specific scoring criteria may affect how answers are evaluated, particularly regarding the assignment of constant values in the solution.

chwala
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Homework Statement
Kindly see attached below
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parametric equations
My interest on this question is solely on ##10.iii## only... i shared the whole question so as to give some background information.

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the solution to ##10.iii## here,
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now my question is, what if one would approach the question like this,
##\frac {dy}{dx}=\frac{t^2+2}{t^2-2}##
we know that ##xt=t^2+2##
##yt=t^2-2##,
therefore, ##\frac {dy}{dx}=\frac{x}{y}##
it follows that, ##ydy=xdx## on integration, ##\frac {y^2}{2}+k=\frac {x^2}{2}##, or
##x^2-y^2=2k##, would this be correct? (...if a student was to answer using this approach in an exam i.e...)
I know that the ##k## value here is not assigned the required numeric value ##8##...
 
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Yes it would be correct. But you would have to find a way to find k, probably using the fact that $$x^2-y^2=(t+\frac{2}{t})^2-(t-\frac{2}{t})^2=...=8$$
 
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Delta2 said:
Yes it would be correct. But you would have to find a way to find k, probably using the fact that $$x^2-y^2=(t+\frac{2}{t})^2-(t-\frac{2}{t})^2=...=8$$
which takes us back to the mark scheme method...going round in a circle...would the student get full marks for my approach or will he miss a mark for not having the ##k## value?
 
chwala said:
which takes us back to the mark scheme method...going round in a circle...would the student get full marks for my approach or will he miss a mark for not having the ##k## value?
I think he will miss some points for not having the ##k## value...something like 10%-25% of the total points.
 
Thanks delta... its a ##4## mark question, my quick guess is that a student would score ##3## marks...cheers mate.
 
If one has already seen that adding the two equations drops the reciprocal ##t## terms, then it should be obvious that subtracting the equations drops the ##t## terms:
##x+y=2t##
##x-y=\dfrac{4}{t}##
Multiplying the equations drops the ##t## dependence on the right
##(x+y)(x-y)=8.##
 
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kuruman said:
If one has already seen that adding the two equations drops the reciprocal ##t## terms, then it should be obvious that subtracting the equations drops the ##t## terms:
##x+y=2t##
##x-y=\dfrac{4}{t}##
Multiplying the equations drops the ##t## dependence on the right
##(x+y)(x-y)=8.##
nice kuruman,...looks like i can use your approach in solving simultaneous equations in the future...i did not realize one can multiply the expressions the way you've done. Brilliant mate!
 
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