Find the equation of a plane perpendicular to a line and goes through a point

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a plane that is perpendicular to a given line and passes through a specific point in three-dimensional space. The problem involves concepts from vector mathematics and geometry.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the directional vector of the line and the normal vector of the plane. There are attempts to use the dot product to establish perpendicularity, and questions arise about the implications of finding a vector that satisfies this condition.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the properties of vectors related to the plane and the line. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of directional vectors and the significance of the normal vector to the plane. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the relationship between vectors and their roles in defining the plane.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the distinction between vectors representing directions and those representing points in the context of the plane. Participants are also considering the implications of the plane not passing through the origin.

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Homework Statement


find equation of plane P that is perpendicular to line L which passes through the point (-2,-2,3)

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[/B]line L passes through the points (1,2,1) and (0,0,-3) I have worked out the parametric equations of line L to be
x=1-t
y=2-2t
z=1-4t
i know that if dot product of two vectors = 0 then they are perpendicular if that helps. I am stuck on how to piece this question together.
any help would be greatly appreciated
 
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cathal84 said:
if dot product of two vectors = 0 then they are perpendicular
Right, so you need a vector in the direction of the line.
 
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haruspex said:
Right, so you need a vector in the direction of the line.
i found a directional vector on the line it is <-1,-2,-4> so if i do dot product of that vector with <1,-1/2,0> (i just came up with in my head thinking what vector do i need to have that will give me dot product equal to 0) this will give me the dot product = 0.
so can i conclude that the vector <1,-1/2,0> is on the plane?
 
cathal84 said:
i found a directional vector on the line it is <-1,-2,-4> so if i do dot product of that vector with <1,-1/2,0> (i just came up with in my head thinking what vector do i need to have that will give me dot product equal to 0) this will give me the dot product = 0.
so can i conclude that the vector <1,-1/2,0> is on the plane?
even if so not sure how this is going to help me, exam
cathal84 said:
i found a directional vector on the line it is <-1,-2,-4> so if i do dot product of that vector with <1,-1/2,0> (i just came up with in my head thinking what vector do i need to have that will give me dot product equal to 0) this will give me the dot product = 0.
so can i conclude that the vector <1,-1/2,0> is on the plane?
even if that is true i don't know how that helps me
 
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if ##\vec r## is a position vector of the plane than the difference ##\vec r - \vec r_0 ## is a vector lying in the plane. It is perpendicular to L. Write it out in components.
 
cathal84 said:
i found a directional vector on the line it is <-1,-2,-4> so if i do dot product of that vector with <1,-1/2,0> (i just came up with in my head thinking what vector do i need to have that will give me dot product equal to 0) this will give me the dot product = 0.
so can i conclude that the vector <1,-1/2,0> is on the plane?
You have to be careful to distinguish between a vector representing a direction of interest and a vector representing a point. If the plane does not pass through the origin then the vector for a point in the plane is not parallel to the plane. Vectors perpendicular to the given line will be parallel to the plane. See ehild's diagram.
 
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You know that the line L is perpendicular to the plane. Also, you found that <-1,-2,-4> is a vector in the same direction as the line. Wouldn't that imply that <-1,-2,-4> is normal to the plane? Knowing the general formula of a plane ##ax+by+cz=d## , what do the coefficients ##a, b, ##& ##c## have to do with the normal to the plane?
 

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