Is this line perpendicular to the plane?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a given line is perpendicular to a specified plane defined by the equation z(x,y) = 0.882531*x - 0.346494*y + 0.383108, with points P1(0.5, 0.1, Z) and P2(0.4, 0.15, Z) provided for analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the normal vector to the plane and the vector representing the line segment between points P1 and P2. There are attempts to derive parametric equations for the line and to verify its perpendicularity to the plane. Some participants express confusion regarding the calculations and the results obtained.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the accuracy of their results. There is a suggestion that the normal vector to the plane is <0.882531, -0.346494, -1>, and some participants are exploring the implications of this in relation to the line's direction.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies in their calculations, particularly regarding the coordinates and the representation of the plane. There is also mention of the complexity of the numbers involved, which may be affecting their ability to visualize the problem accurately.

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Homework Statement


Line perpendicular to a plane
Plane: z(x,y)= 0.882531*x-0.346494*y+0.383108
P1(0.5;0.1;Z)
P2(0.4;0.15;Z)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



z(0.5,0.1) = 0.7897
z(0.4,0.15) = 0.68414

vector n=ai+bj+ck

vector P2P1 = (0.5-0.4)i + (0.1-0.15)j +(0.7897-0.68414)k

n*(P2P1) = 0.1a - 0.005b + 0.10556c
c= -0.947329(a-0.5*b)

parametric

x(t,u) = t+0.5
y(t,u)=t+0.1
z(t,u)=-0.947329(t-0.5*t)

when I put this on the graph, its not perpendicular at all... :( help
 
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masterchiefo said:

Homework Statement


Line perpendicular to a plane
Plane: z(x,y)= 0.882531*x-0.346494*y+0.383108
P1(0.5;0.1;Z)
P2(0.4;0.15;Z)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



z(0.5,0.1) = 0.7897
z(0.4,0.15) = 0.68414
For the first one, I get .7897241, and for the second, I get .6841463
masterchiefo said:
vector n=ai+bj+ck

vector P2P1 = (0.5-0.4)i + (0.1-0.15)j +(0.7897-0.68414)k
n*(P2P1) = 0.1a - 0.005b + 0.10556c
Your 2nd coordinate is wrong -- it should be -.05, not -.005 .
Also, your plane can be written as 0.882531*x - 0.346494*y - z = .383108. A normal to this plane is <0.882531, -0.346494, -1> .

masterchiefo said:
c= -0.947329(a-0.5*b)

parametric

x(t,u) = t+0.5
y(t,u)=t+0.1
z(t,u)=-0.947329(t-0.5*t)

when I put this on the graph, its not perpendicular at all... :( help
 
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BTW, what terrible numbers in this problem! I started by using a calculator, but then gave up and made a small Excel spreadsheet.
 
When you have a plane of equation ##ax+by+cz+d = 0##, you know that the perpendicular line is directed by ##\vec u = (a,b,c)##.
So the equation of your line passing through ##P_1## is ##{\cal D} = \{ P_1 + t \vec u, t\in\mathbb{R}\} ##
 
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