Find the equation of given curve in the form ##e^{3y}=f(x)##

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The discussion focuses on solving the differential equation involving the curve expressed as e^{3y}=f(x). The integration process is detailed, leading to the equation e^{3y}=3x^3 ln x - x^3 - e^3. Participants emphasize the importance of verifying the solution by checking if the point (e, 1) satisfies the equation and confirming that the derived implicit equation meets the differential equation's requirements. The correctness of the integration steps is acknowledged, with a suggestion to include more detailed steps for clarity. Overall, the solution appears valid, reinforcing the practice of verifying results in differential equations.
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For part (a);

$$\int e^{3y} \,dy=\int 3x^2\ln x \,dx$$$$\frac{e^{3y}}{3}=x^3\ln x-\frac{x^3}{3}+k$$$$\frac{e^{3}}{3}=e^3-\frac{e^3}{3}+k$$$$\frac{e^{3y}}{3}=x^3\ln x-\frac{x^3}{3}-\frac{e^3}{3}$$$$e^{3y}=3x^3 \ln x-x^3-e^3$$

You may check my working...i do not have the solution.
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached
Relevant Equations:: Integration

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For part (a);

$$\int e^{3y} \,dy=\int 3x^2\ln x \,dx$$$$\frac{e^{3y}}{3}=x^3\ln x-\frac{x^3}{3}+k$$$$\frac{e^{3}}{3}=e^3-\frac{e^3}{3}+k$$$$\frac{e^{3y}}{3}=x^3\ln x-\frac{x^3}{3}-\frac{e^3}{3}$$$$e^{3y}=3x^3 \ln x-x^3-e^3$$

You may check my working...i do not have the solution.
You can check this for yourself, something you should always do when you solve differential equations. Since this is an initial value problem, checking your solution amounts to doing two things:
  1. Verify that the point (e, 1) satisfies the equation ##e^{3y}=3x^3 \ln x-x^3-e^3 ##.
  2. Verify that for the implicit equation you found satisfies the DE ##\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{3x^2 \ln(x)}{e^{3y}}##.
 
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I find your work correct. Only thing you could add more detailed steps is in the passage from first to second line, but yes ok it is just one integration by parts.
 
Mark44 said:
You can check this for yourself, something you should always do when you solve differential equations. Since this is an initial value problem, checking your solution amounts to doing two things:
  1. Verify that the point (e, 1) satisfies the equation ##e^{3y}=3x^3 \ln x-x^3-e^3 ##.
  2. Verify that for the implicit equation you found satisfies the DE ##\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{3x^2 \ln(x)}{e^{3y}}##.
Thanks @Mark44 ...1. ##e^3=3e^3-e^3-e^3## (thus satisfied).

2.

##3e^{3y}y'=9x^2\ln x +3x^2-3x^2##

##⇒3e^{3y}y'=9x^2\ln x##

##y'=\dfrac{9x^2\ln x}{3e^{3y}}=\dfrac{3x^2\ln x}{e^{3y}}##
 
Something I've said to many of my students when I taught classes on differential equations. I said it in a previous post here, but it bears repeating.
Mark44 said:
You can check this for yourself, something you should always do when you solve differential equations.
 
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