Find the force at the middle point of the rod

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The problem involves a rod of length L and mass m, which is clamped at one end and rotated with an angular velocity. The objective is to determine the force at the midpoint of the rod, considering the effects of centripetal force and the distribution of mass along the rod.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the integration of forces acting on the midpoint and the effects of centrifugal force from the outer part of the rod. Questions arise regarding why the inner part does not exert force at the midpoint.

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Participants are exploring the reasoning behind the forces acting on the midpoint of the rod, with some guidance provided on the relationship between the mass distribution and the forces involved. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions related to the forces exerted by different sections of the rod.

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Participants reference a similar scenario involving a hanging rod to illustrate their points, indicating that the problem may involve assumptions about the distribution of forces and the effects of rotation.

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Homework Statement



A rod of length L,mass m is clamped at one end to a wall.The rod is rotated with angular velocity @ (omega say).Find the force at the middle point of the rod.



Homework Equations



Force = ma
Centripetal force = mw^2r



The Attempt at a Solution



I think there is some integration in this but I can't seem to make out what all forces are applied at the mid point.
 
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When a rod is hanging from one end, the bottom half of the rod will pull down on the mid point, while the upper half will not exert any force at that point.

Here, too, the outer part is exerting a centrifugal force outward at the mid point. Assume some linear mass density of the rod, and then integrate the force from L/2 to L.

(If dx is the elementary length at a dist x, then its mass dm = rho*dx, and you know its w in terms of x.)
 
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Why is that?I mean why doesn't the inside part exert force?
 
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Refer to the hanging rod example. The weight of the lower half is supported by the tension at the mid-point, while the weight of the upper half is not. But at the topmost point, the whole weight of the rod is supported.

Here too, the centrifugal force acts outward and away from the centre. It's a very similar scenario. The part which is "outer" to the mid-point pulls outward at the mid-point. The part which is inward to the mid-point is already supported by the force at the pivot, like the topmost point of the hanging rod.
 
All right thank you.
 

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