Find the gradient of 1/mod{r-r'}

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The discussion focuses on finding the gradient of the function 1/|r - r'|. The initial confusion arises from the belief that the derivative is zero, but it is clarified that the chain rule must be applied. Participants discuss the proper representation of the components involved in the gradient calculation, emphasizing that all variables should be treated equally. The correct expression for the gradient is derived as a vector consisting of the partial derivatives with respect to x, y, and z. Overall, the thread highlights the importance of careful application of calculus rules in vector calculus problems.
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Homework Statement


Find \nabla\left( \dfrac{1}{\left| \vec{r}-\vec{r'}\right| }\right)

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<br /> \left| \vec{r}-\vec{r&#039;}\right| =\sqrt{(x-x^\prime)^2 + (y-y^\prime)^2 + (z-z^\prime)^2}
and so therefore the derivative of the scalar would be 0. Of course then it seems trivial. So perhaps I need to use the chain rule, but I don't know what to make my substitution for. I can't seem to escape the fact that the bottom always ends up being a scaler.

So I seem a bit stuck. Any advice on where to go onwards would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
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I don't understand how you get 0. What do you get for
\frac{\partial}{\partial x}((x-x^\prime)^2 + (y-y^\prime)^2 + (z-z^\prime)^2)^{-1/2}?
Yes, you need to use the chain rule. You can break it up as finely as you like, but a reasonable choice would be
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} \frac{\partial f^{-1/2}}{\partial f}
where f = (x-x^\prime)^2 + (y-y^\prime)^2 + (z-z^\prime)^2
 
Thank you.

Okay, so doing that I get <br /> \frac{\partial}{\partial x}\left(\frac{1}{\left| \vec{r}-\vec{r&#039;}\right|}\right) = \frac{x^{\prime}-x}{\sqrt{(x-x^\prime)^2 + C}^3}<br />

by treating x' as a constant.Does that seem along the right path?
 
Sort of. I assume C here stands for (y-y')2 + (z-z')2, but why are you choosing to represent that with C? Suggests to me you are thinking of it as a constant, and so playing a different role from the (x-x')2 part. Yes, you had treat it as a constant for the purposes of ∂/∂x, but having done that it tells you the value of the derivative at any point (x,y,z), so they should still be considered variables on an equal footing. So I would suggest representing the whole square root part using the original modulus formula involving r.
What do you then get for the whole grad (∇) vector?
 
I got this:

\nabla \left(\frac{1}{\left| \vec{r}-\vec{r&#039;}\right|}\right) = \frac{ (x^\prime-x) \vec{i} + (y^\prime-y) \vec{j} + (z^\prime-z)\vec{k}} {\sqrt{(x-x^\prime)^2 + (y-y^\prime)^2 + (z-z^\prime)^2}^3}

by adding the x, y and z parts of the same form as above.
 
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Two things wrong with that. First, I assume you meant ∇ on the left, not ∂/∂x. Secondly, you shouldn't add the three terms up. ∇ is a vector, namely (∂/∂x, ∂/∂y, ∂/∂z), so the answer should be a vector consisting of those three terms.
 
Yes, just typos. Corrected as above.
 
Looks good.
 
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Thank you for your assistance :).
 
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