Find the kinetic friction coefficient

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The discussion revolves around determining the coefficient of kinetic friction in a system involving multiple blocks with different masses. Participants are analyzing the forces acting on the blocks and their resulting acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to apply Newton's second law (F=ma) to analyze the forces on the blocks. Questions arise regarding the relevance of the total mass of the system and how it affects the forces acting on individual blocks.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the total mass when analyzing the forces, but there is still uncertainty about the relationship between the forces on block 2 and the other blocks.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a focus on understanding the forces involved without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement
See image1.
Block 1: 1M kg
Block 2: 2M kg
Block 3: 2M kg
Resulting acceleration: .5 m/s2
Relevant Equations
F = ma
fk = Fn * u
1569828674457.png

Image1, the exercise.

My solution:
1569828729612.png

Image2, my solution

The answer is .37 but I keep getting .45
What am I doing wrong?
 
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Addez123 said:
Homework Statement: See image1.
Block 1: 1M kg
Block 2: 2M kg
Block 3: 2M kg
Resulting acceleration: .5 m/s2
Homework Equations: F = ma
fk = Fn * u

View attachment 250394
Image1, the exercise.

My solution:
View attachment 250395
Image2, my solution

The answer is .37 but I keep getting .45
What am I doing wrong?
What's the total mass of the system?
 
5M but I don't see your point?
I use F=ma on the center block (block 2), what does the total mass have to do with anything?
 
Addez123 said:
what does the total mass have to do with anything?
All blocks will accelerate together, so their total mass is the total inertia.
Alternatively, assign unknowns to the tensions and draw a separate FBD for each block.
 
It produce the correct answer, but I still don't see the corelation.
I mean we only look at forces applied to Block 2, but for some reason we need to consider the mass of the two other blocks aswell?

I mean F (from F=ma) here is applied only to block 2, its not applied to block 1 or 3. If it were they'd all move sideways. How come m should include block1 and 3 then?
 
Addez123 said:
I mean we only look at forces applied to Block 2
But did you? The forces on block 2 are the tensions in the strings. They are not equal to the weights of the masses suspended on the ends.
As I wrote, draw separate FBDs for each block, treating the tensions as unknowns.
 

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