Find the local maxima and minima for##f(x,y) = x^3-xy-x+xy^3-y^4##

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The discussion focuses on finding local maxima and minima for the function f(x,y) = x^3 - xy - x + xy^3 - y^4. The partial derivatives are calculated, leading to the identification of critical points through numerical methods. The local maximum is found at approximately (-0.67, 0.43), while a local minimum is identified at (0.471, -0.396). An inflection point or saddle point is noted at (-7.540, -5.595). The conversation emphasizes the utility of software like Wolfram Alpha for visualizing and solving these equations.
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Homework Statement
see attached.
Relevant Equations
##\nabla f = 0##
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Ok i have,

##f_x= 3x^2-y-1+y^3##

##f_y = -x+3xy^2-4y^3##

##f_{xx} = 6x##

##f_{yy} = 6xy - 12y^2##

##f_{xy} = -1+3y^2##

looks like one needs software to solve this?

I can see the solutions from wolframalpha: local maxima to two decimal places as;

##(x,y) = (-0.67, 0.43)##

...but i am more interested in steps that lead to the given solution...
 
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chwala said:
looks like one needs software to solve this?

Indeed. See
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=3x^2+y^3-y=1+AND+4y^3=x(3y^2-1)

chwala said:
I can see the solutions from wolframalpha: local maxima to two decimal places as;

##(x,y) = (-0.67, 0.43)##

...but i am more interested in steps that lead to the given solution...

Look at the plot. This gives you an idea of how a numerical algorithm could work. Walk along the blue line until you cross the orange line and determine whether it is a local minimum, a local maximum, or an inflection point.
 
fresh_42 said:
Indeed. See
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=3x^2+y^3-y=1+AND+4y^3=x(3y^2-1)
Look at the plot. This gives you an idea of how a numerical algorithm could work. Walk along the blue line until you cross the orange line and determine whether it is a local minimum, a local maximum, or an inflection point.
Thanks from the plot we have the point ##(-7.540, -5.595)## being an inflection point or can we say saddle point? then ##(0.471, -0.396)## being the local minimum... bringing me to the next question, do we have a global maximum and global minimum for this problem?
 
chwala said:
Thanks from the plot we have the point ##(-7.540, -5.595)## being an inflection point or can we say saddle point?
Yes.
chwala said:
then ##(0.471, -0.396)## being the local minimum... bringing me to the next question, do we have a global maximum and global minimum for this problem?
Look at the links in @anuttarasammyak 's post #3.
 
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