Find the magnitude of charge stored in the entire network

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The discussion revolves around a circuit involving capacitors C1, C2, C3, and C4 with specified capacitances and a potential difference of 25V. Participants are tasked with finding the charge stored in the network, the charge in each capacitor, the energy stored, and the effects of removing one capacitor from the circuit.

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  • Participants explore the relationships between capacitors in series and parallel configurations, attempting to calculate equivalent capacitance and charge. Some express uncertainty about the configuration of certain capacitors and how to determine individual charges and voltages.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with attempts to clarify the arrangement of capacitors and their respective charges. Some participants have provided insights that help in understanding the circuit, while others are still questioning their assumptions and calculations.

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Problem: In the circuit shown in the figure below, the capacitors C1 and C2 have
a capacitance of 45µF. C3 and C4 have a capacitance of 90µF. The two
terminals A and B on the left have a potential difference of 25V

HE5o8uk.png

(Sorry - had to quickly draw it, could not save/find image)

(a) Find the magnitude of charge stored in the entire network.
(b) Find the magnitude of charges stored in each capacitor.
(c) Find the energy stored in each capacitor. Identify the capacitor with
the largest energy content.
(d) The C3 capacitor is now removed from the circuit, leaving a break
in the wire at its position. What is the voltage drop across the three
remaining capacitors?
(e) Describe how the maximal amount of energy can be stored using
these four capacitors. Draw the resulting circuit and state how much
energy is stored in your circuit using the same potential difference of
25V.

Equations/etc:
C=Q/V
Ceq series=(1/c1+1/c2...)^-1
Ceq parallel=c1+c2...
Series capacitors have equal charges and different voltages while parallel's have different charges and equal voltages.
U=(CV^2)/2 (Energy of capacitors)

Attempt:

a) Q1234=C1234(V)

Knowing that C1 and C3 are in series , C13=3e-5F
C2 and C4 in parallel, thus C24 = 1.34e-4F
C13 and C24 are in series thus C1234=2.45e-5F

Thus Q1234=C1234*V=2.45e-5F*25V=6.1e-4C

b)Since C1 and C3 are series, Q1=Q3=Q13=Q1234=C1234(V)=2.45e-5F*25V=6.1e-4C

I am not sure how to then solve Q2 and Q4 assuming I did Q1, Q3 correctly.

c) U=(CV^2)/2 , I realize that C for each is already given but am not sure what are the individual voltages.

d) I am unsure how to approach this

e) Since Ceq parallel is greater then the individual capacitance then it would make sense for it to be an all parallel circuit where the new Energy is equal to U=(CV^2)/2 where C=C1+C2+C3+C4.

Thanks.
 
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rstein66 said:
Problem: In the circuit shown in the figure below, the capacitors C1 and C2 have
a capacitance of 45µF. C3 and C4 have a capacitance of 90µF. The two
terminals A and B on the left have a potential difference of 25V

HE5o8uk.png

(Sorry - had to quickly draw it, could not save/find image)

(a) Find the magnitude of charge stored in the entire network.
(b) Find the magnitude of charges stored in each capacitor.
(c) Find the energy stored in each capacitor. Identify the capacitor with
the largest energy content.
(d) The C3 capacitor is now removed from the circuit, leaving a break
in the wire at its position. What is the voltage drop across the three
remaining capacitors?
(e) Describe how the maximal amount of energy can be stored using
these four capacitors. Draw the resulting circuit and state how much
energy is stored in your circuit using the same potential difference of
25V.

Equations/etc:
C=Q/V
Ceq series=(1/c1+1/c2...)^-1
Ceq parallel=c1+c2...
Series capacitors have equal charges and different voltages while parallel's have different charges and equal voltages.
U=(CV^2)/2 (Energy of capacitors)

Attempt:

a) Q1234=C1234(V)

Knowing that C1 and C3 are in series , C13=3e-5F.

C1 and C3 are not in series.
 
rstein66 said:
Problem: In the circuit shown in the figure below, the capacitors C1 and C2 have
a capacitance of 45µF. C3 and C4 have a capacitance of 90µF. The two
terminals A and B on the left have a potential difference of 25V

HE5o8uk.png

(Sorry - had to quickly draw it, could not save/find image)

(a) Find the magnitude of charge stored in the entire network.
(b) Find the magnitude of charges stored in each capacitor.
(c) Find the energy stored in each capacitor. Identify the capacitor with
the largest energy content.
(d) The C3 capacitor is now removed from the circuit, leaving a break
in the wire at its position. What is the voltage drop across the three
remaining capacitors?
(e) Describe how the maximal amount of energy can be stored using
these four capacitors. Draw the resulting circuit and state how much
energy is stored in your circuit using the same potential difference of
25V.

Equations/etc:
C=Q/V
Ceq series=(1/c1+1/c2...)^-1
Ceq parallel=c1+c2...
Series capacitors have equal charges and different voltages while parallel's have different charges and equal voltages.
U=(CV^2)/2 (Energy of capacitors)

Attempt:

a) Q1234=C1234(V)

Knowing that C1 and C3 are in series , C13=3e-5F
C1 and C3 are not in series. When two elements are in series, the current through one element has to go through the other. The current through C1, however, can go through C2 or C3. In contrast, C3 and C4 are in series. There's nowhere else for the current through C3 to go other than through C4.

C2 and C4 in parallel, thus C24 = 1.34e-4F
C13 and C24 are in series thus C1234=2.45e-5F

Thus Q1234=C1234*V=2.45e-5F*25V=6.1e-4C

b)Since C1 and C3 are series, Q1=Q3=Q13=Q1234=C1234(V)=2.45e-5F*25V=6.1e-4C

I am not sure how to then solve Q2 and Q4 assuming I did Q1, Q3 correctly.

c) U=(CV^2)/2 , I realize that C for each is already given but am not sure what are the individual voltages.

d) I am unsure how to approach this

e) Since Ceq parallel is greater then the individual capacitance then it would make sense for it to be an all parallel circuit where the new Energy is equal to U=(CV^2)/2 where C=C1+C2+C3+C4.

Thanks.
 
Thanks Vela, that made a lot of sense. I'll give it another go.
 

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