Find the magnitude of the child's acceleration

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The discussion focuses on calculating the child's acceleration in a physics problem involving forces and angles. The initial calculations show that the resultant force R is 315 N, and the acceleration a is derived using both the sine rule and Newton's second law, yielding a consistent value of 6.86 m/s². There is some confusion regarding the gravitational force value to use, with participants debating between 9.81 m/s² and 10 m/s². The problem emphasizes that the child's weight acts horizontally in relation to the resultant force for the scenario to be solvable. Overall, the calculations and alternative approaches confirm the same acceleration outcome.
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Homework Statement
see attached [ Question 6]
Relevant Equations
Mechanics
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In my working i have;

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For a)

##\tan 55^{\circ} = \dfrac{450}{R}##

##R = \dfrac{450}{\tan 55^{\circ} }= 315 N##

part b) no problem here ...horizontal to left.

c) This is where my real doubt is,
i have using sine rule;

##\dfrac{9.8}{sin 55^{\circ} }= \dfrac{a}{sin 35^{\circ}}##

##a = \dfrac{9.81 \sin 35^{\circ}}{\sin 55^{\circ}} = 6.86 ## m/s

There could be an alternative approach.
 
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Sure, that works, but you could just as well apply the equation for the tangent that you used in (a):
$$
a = g/\tan 55^\circ
$$
Note that
$$
\tan 55^\circ = \sin 55^\circ / \cos 55^\circ
= \sin 55^\circ / \sin(90^\circ - 55^\circ)
\sin 55^\circ / \sin 35^\circ
$$
so the result is obviously the same as what you got
 
chwala said:
Homework Statement: see attached [ Question 6]
Relevant Equations: Mechanics

View attachment 346897


In my working i have;

View attachment 346898

For a)

##\tan 55^{\circ} = \dfrac{450}{R}##

##R = \dfrac{450}{\tan 55^{\circ} }= 315 N##

part b) no problem here ...horizontal to left.

c) This is where my real doubt is,
i have using sine rule;

##\dfrac{9.8}{sin 55^{\circ} }= \dfrac{a}{sin 35^{\circ}}##

##a = \dfrac{9.81 \sin 35^{\circ}}{\sin 55^{\circ}} = 6.86 ## m/s

There could be an alternative approach.
The alternative approach may be to use Newton's second law. You know the net force, don't you?
 
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nasu said:
The alternative approach may be to use Newton's second law. You know the net force, don't you?
Correct, I have;

##F = ma##
##315 = \dfrac{450}{9.8} a##

##315 = 45.9a##

##a=\dfrac{315}{45.9} = 6.86 m/s##

The confusion on this question was on the value assigned to gravitational force. Its confusing as to whether to use ##10 m/s^2## or ##9.81 m/s^2##.

Cheers man!
 
chwala said:
##a=\dfrac{315}{45.9} = 6.86 m/s^2##
Why is the problem stating that the weight of the child acts horizontally?
 
Lnewqban said:
Why is the problem stating that the weight of the child acts horizontally?
It ... is not ...
Given that the resultant of P and the child's weight acts horizontally.
My emphasis.

This is necessary to make the problem solvable. Other types of rides, such as a simple back and forth swing, would have a different direction resultant.
 
There's alternative approach to this, will just post directly from phone and amend later, we have to
1. Resolve forces vertically,

##P_y = P \cos 35^0##

##P = 549.2 ## N


2. Resolving horizontally,
##P_x = P \sin 35^0##

##P_x = 549.3 \sin 35^0##

##P_x = 315.2 ## N
 
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