Find the magnitude of the initial acceleration of the rod's center of mass

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The problem involves a uniform rod of length 1.15m attached to a frictionless pivot, released from rest at an angle of 17.0 degrees above the horizontal. The objective is to find the magnitude of the initial acceleration of the rod's center of mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of torque and angular acceleration, with some questioning the use of cosine versus sine for the angle in the torque equation. There is also a focus on the relationship between angular and linear acceleration.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered guidance on the angle to use in calculations and the correct formula for tangential acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these adjustments, with some participants expressing confusion over previous attempts and results.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the angle being interpreted differently (above the horizontal versus from the vertical), which may affect calculations. Some participants also note the importance of using the correct length for the center of mass in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



A uniform rod of length 1.15m is attached to a frictionless pivot at one end. It is released from rest an angle theta=17.0 degrees above the horizontal.

Find the magnitude of the initial acceleration of the rod's center of mass

Homework Equations



torque=moment of inertia*angular acceleration
torque=length*force(perpendicular)

I=1/3 ML^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I set the torque about pivot equal to the moment of inertia about pivot times the angular acceleration to find the angular acceleration. Then I found the linear acceleration by multiplying the found angular acceleration by the length of rod. So my work was...

L/2*(Mg)cos17=1/3*ML^2*(angular acceleration)
3/2*(g/L)*cos17=(angular acceleration)
12.22 rad/s^2= (angular acceleration)

a=(angular acceleration)*L= 14.05 m/s^2

However the answer I got is wrong. (Unfortunately, I do not have access to the correct answer) What step did I miss?
 
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... L/2*(Mg)cos17=1/3*ML^2*(angular acceleration)

This should be the sin not the cos.

The com will then experience only a tangential acceleration:

[tex]a_t = r \alpha[/tex]
 
I replaced the cos with the sin17 in my equation and I just tried to solve but I was told my answer was wrong. And I did exactly what you suggested. I wonder why that was wrong? Did I need to do something else?
 
Have you used the correct angle ? 17 deg above the horizontal is 90 + 17 from the vertical.
 
If you are trying to find the tangential acceleration of the centre of mass, wouldn't it be [tex]a_t = \alpha(L/2)[/tex], since the centre of mass will be at half the length of a uniform rod? Just a thought.
 
Mentz114, thank you for mentioning that! I looked through some notes and saw I need to add 90 degrees. However, I just redid the problem, using the info you told me and what andrevdh told me, and oddly enough, I got the same answer!

hage567, I will try to find the initial acceleration with L/2 instead of L.
 
Thanks everyone, I got the right answer now.
 

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