Find the maximum tension in the rope problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the maximum tension force in a rope pulling a 10kg wood sled with a 5.0kg wood box on top, where the coefficient of static friction (\u03bc_s) is 0.5. The key to solving the problem lies in understanding the forces acting on both the sled and the box, requiring two free body diagrams. The tension (T) must be equal to the static friction force to prevent the box from slipping, which can be calculated using the equation T = \u03bc_s * n, where n is the normal force. Properly analyzing the acceleration of both objects is crucial for determining the correct tension value.

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  • Understanding of Newton's laws of motion
  • Knowledge of free body diagrams
  • Familiarity with static friction concepts
  • Ability to calculate normal force (n = mg)
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  • Learn how to draw and analyze multiple free body diagrams
  • Study the relationship between tension and static friction in systems with multiple objects
  • Explore the effects of different coefficients of friction on tension calculations
  • Practice similar problems involving pulleys and frictionless surfaces
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Homework Statement



A horizontal rope pulls a 10kg wood sled across frictionless snow. A 5.0kg wood box rides on the sled. The coefficient of static friction for wood on wood is \mu_s=0.5.

What is the largest tension force for which the box doesn't slip?

Homework Equations



n=Fg=mg


The Attempt at a Solution



So far I've got a picture and a free body diagram, with 3 total forces: Gravity defining down, normal force pointing up, and static friction pointed opposite the direction of motion.

I tried setting T equal to static friction but I got the wrong answer.

Can someone talk me through the problem so I know what I'm missing? Thanks.
 
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Show your calculations and answer. Then only we are in a position to tell where you went wrong.
 
JoshMP said:

Homework Statement



A horizontal rope pulls a 10kg wood sled across frictionless snow. A 5.0kg wood box rides on the sled. The coefficient of static friction for wood on wood is \mu_s=0.5.

What is the largest tension force for which the box doesn't slip?

Homework Equations



n=Fg=mg


The Attempt at a Solution



So far I've got a picture and a free body diagram, with 3 total forces: Gravity defining down, normal force pointing up, and static friction pointed opposite the direction of motion.
Is this is a free body diagram of the forces acting on the sled, or on the box, or on the sled - box system? You'll need 2 free body diagrams to solve for T. Hint: The box and sled are both accelerating at the same rate.
 

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