Find the nth term of the given sequence

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The discussion revolves around finding the nth term of a given sequence, which appears to be related to polynomial sequences, specifically cubic sequences. Participants are exploring different methods to derive the formula for the sequence.

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  • Participants discuss the original poster's attempt to derive the nth term using simultaneous equations and polynomial forms. There is mention of recognizing the sequence as cubes plus one, and some express a desire for a more solid approach beyond trial and error. Others question the uniqueness of the solution and suggest that higher-degree polynomials could yield multiple solutions.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their working and questioning the assumptions about the uniqueness of the solution. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of polynomial solutions, indicating that there may be an infinite number of valid polynomial expressions for the sequence.

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Find the nth term of the sequence ##[2, 9 , 28, 65, 126]##
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My working...i need to arrange this in an array,

##[2, 9, 28, 65, 126]##
##[ 7, 19, 37, 61 ]##
##[ 12, 18, 24 ]##
##[ 6, 6 ]##
I was able to solve this by coming up with 4 simultaneous equations,
third difference we have a constant implying a cubic sequence... therefore our sequence will be of the form ##U_n= an^3 +bn^2+cn+d##
I managed to solve it...allow me to post the 4 simultaneous equations later...i finish with class...to eventually realize ##U_n= n^3 +1##

I am seeking an alternative method...cheers
 
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chwala said:
I am seeking an alternative method...cheers
I guess you were supposed to notice that the sequence was the cubes plus one.
 
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PeroK said:
I guess you were supposed to notice that the sequence was the cubes plus one.
Yes, that's the approach i saw...trial and error method. I would want a more solid approach...i am posting my working...give me a moment.
 
chwala said:
Yes, that's the approach i saw...trial and error method. I would want a more solid approach...i am posting my working...give me a moment.
There is no unique solution. If you look for a polynomial up to the 4th power (or higher) you should find more solutions.
 
ok, these are the equations;
##U_n= an^3 +bn^2+cn+d##
##2= a+b+c+d##
##9= 8a+4b+2c+d##
##28= 27a+9b+3c+d##
##65= 64a+16b+4c+d##
##126= 125a+25b+5c+d##

on working we get;
##7= 7a+3b+c##
##19= 19a+5b+c##

##12= 12a+2b##

##37= 37a+7b+c##
##61= 61a+9b+c##

##24= 24a+2b##

On Solving,
##a=1, b=0, c=0, d=1##
thus, ##U_n= n^3 +1##

Finding the nth term of any quadratic sequences is a bit straightforward...one just has to note that for second difference, we use ##2a=k##, where k is a constant and ##a## is the co efficient of ##n^2##. cheers! bingo!:cool:
 
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PeroK said:
There is no unique solution. If you look for a polynomial up to the 4th power (or higher) you should find more solutions.
Are you implying that we have other solutions for this sequence?
 
chwala said:
Are you implying that we have other solutions for this sequence?
There must be an infinite number of polynomial solutions.
 
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PeroK said:
There must be an infinite number of polynomial solutions.

For example n^3 + 1 + p(n)(n - 1)(n-2)(n-3)(n-4)(n-5) for any polynomial p.
 
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