Find the period of the particle and the amplitude

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The problem involves a particle undergoing simple harmonic motion (SHM) as it moves between two points, p and q, which are 1.2 meters apart. The particle takes 3 seconds to travel from p to q and another 3 seconds to return from q to q, prompting the need to determine the period and amplitude of the motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between time intervals and the motion of the particle, with one suggesting that the time taken to move from the equilibrium position to q is 1.5 seconds. Others question the assumptions made regarding the timing and the interpretation of the problem's wording.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and reasoning regarding the period of the motion, while others have raised questions about the assumptions and the clarity of the problem statement. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of starting the timing at different points in the motion.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity in the problem's wording, particularly regarding the time intervals and the distances involved, which some participants believe may affect the ability to derive the required quantities.

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Homework Statement



A particle moves with SHM through two points p and q 1.2 metres apart. It takes 3 seconds to move from p to q and 3 seconds to move from q to q, i.e. passing q the next time.
Find the period of the particle and the amplitude.


Homework Equations


x = ACos(wt + a)
v = w(A^2-x^2)^1/2
a = -w^2x

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew a diagram, and tried associated circular motion, but the problem is I have no idea where to start the motion, or if I can take the point half way between p and q as being equilibrium.
 
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Let O be the equilibrium position, and A and B are the extreme position. The particle takes 1.5 s to go from O to q and 1.5 s to go from q to B. So it takes 3 s to go from O to B. This interval is T/4. Hence T = 12 s.
If you measure the displacement from the equilibrium, then
x = Asin(2πt/T)
Here x = 0.6 m, T = 12 s and t = 1.5 s.
Now find A.
 
Are the period and amplitude different if you start to measure the time later or sooner? You can take he phase constant equal to zero, a=0.

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rl.bhat said:
Let O be the equilibrium position, and A and B are the extreme position. The particle takes 1.5 s to go from O to q and 1.5 s to go from q to B. So it takes 3 s to go from O to B. This interval is T/4. Hence T = 12 s.
If you measure the displacement from the equilibrium, then
x = Asin(2πt/T)
Here x = 0.6 m, T = 12 s and t = 1.5 s.
Now find A.

It's never specified that it takes 1.5 seconds to go from O to q, just that it takes 3 seconds to gor from q to B to q. How did you come up with this?

Your answers are correct, though.
 
In the problem two quantities are unknown. To find them, you must have two data. One data is time to move from q to q back. If p and q are any two points you cannot use 1.2 m in 3 s data for the solution. The problem is poorly worded.
 

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