Find the potential difference in a rectangle

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The problem involves calculating the electric potential at two points, A and B, in a rectangle defined by two point charges of +4 μC and +2 μC located at opposite corners. The dimensions of the rectangle are 0.800m wide and 0.400m tall.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for potential energy but expresses confusion about the necessary charge values at points A and B. Some participants suggest calculating the potential at point A from each charge separately and then summing them.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different aspects of the problem, with some providing guidance on the correct formula for potential and emphasizing the need to calculate potentials rather than potential energy. There is an ongoing discussion about the distances from points A and B to the charges.

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The original poster indicates a lack of understanding of how to start the problem, and there is a mention of needing to clarify the distances involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


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Figure 20-3, referred to below, is 0.800m wide and 0.400m tall with "A" in the top left corner, "+4 microC" charge in the top right corner, "+2 microC" charge in the bottom left corner, and "B" in the bottom right corner.

Two point charges of magnitude +4.00 μC and +2.00 μC are placed at the opposite corners of a rectangle as shown in Figure 20-3.
(a) What is the potential at point A due to these charges?
(b) What is the potential at point B due to these charges?
(c) What is the potential difference between points A and B?

Homework Equations



U=(kQq)/r where k=8.99E9 Nm^2/C^2

U=qV

V=(kq)/r

The Attempt at a Solution



I honestly do not know where to begin this problem, other wise I wouldn't have posted it. I started by trying to plug values into "U=(kQq)/r" but quickly realized that would only help me if I knew the charge on points A and B.

This is what I had done before I realized I had no idea what I was doing:
U=(8.99E9*4*2)/0.89 (0.89 is the hypotenuse of the rectangle)

I was then going to plug that number into U=qV and solve for V, but I have no q for points A or B so I'm stuck.
 
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Use the formula for potential. This is the quantity you have to calculate.
Calculate potential at A produced by each charge, separately. Then add the two potentials.
 
PhysicsIdiot007 said:
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Homework Equations



U=(kQq)/r where k=8.99E9 Nm^2/C^2
This is the potential energy of a charge q in the field of a a point charge Q. You need the potential, V, the potential energy of a unit positive charge. You wrote correctly that
PhysicsIdiot007 said:
U=qV

V=(kq)/r

The Attempt at a Solution



I honestly do not know where to begin this problem, other wise I wouldn't have posted it. I started by trying to plug values into "U=(kQq)/r" but quickly realized that would only help me if I knew the charge on points A and B.

You need the potential V=kQ/r. that q in the formula for the potential energy is 1 C.

PhysicsIdiot007 said:
This is what I had done before I realized I had no idea what I was doing:
U=(8.99E9*4*2)/0.89 (0.89 is the hypotenuse of the rectangle)

I was then going to plug that number into U=qV and solve for V, but I have no q for points A or B so I'm stuck.
You do not need U. You need V. Recall, that the potential at distance r from a point charge Q is kQ/r.
The potential at A is the sum of the potentials from both the ##2 \mu C## charge and the
##4 \mu C## charge. Substitute the appropriate distances in the formula kQ/r. How far is A from both charges?

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