Find the potential - Long hollow cylinder

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The problem involves finding the electric potential inside a long hollow cylinder that is divided into quarters, with alternating segments held at potentials of +V_0 and -V_0. The context is rooted in electrostatics and the application of Laplace's equation in cylindrical coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Laplace's equation and the relevance of Bessel functions in cylindrical coordinates. There are questions about the boundary conditions and how they affect the potential, particularly regarding the potential values at specific angles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem and seeking clarification on boundary conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the general approach to solving the Laplace equation, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the solution.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the use of angular coordinates in cylindrical coordinates, as well as the implications of the boundary conditions on the potential function.

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Homework Statement


Consider a long hollow cylinder of radius b that is divided into equal quarters with alternate segments being held at potential [tex]+V_0[/tex] and [tex]-V_0[/tex].

a) Find the potential inside the cylinder.

b) Sketch the equipotentials.



Homework Equations


Is this an application of Laplace's equation?


The Attempt at a Solution



Dont know where to start!


Thx.
 
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Yes, it is an application of Laplace's equation. Do you know the solution of the LE in cylindrical co-ordinates? Have you seen Bessel functions before? If not, you need to first study this. You will find it covered in most any standard E&M text (eg: Jackson, and probably Griffiths too).
 
Yes I have seen those before, but am not very good at them. From digging around texts I come to the conclusion that the solutions are modified bessel functions. This is because of the cylindrical shape. Does this seem correct?

Now I am running into problems applying the boundary conditions. The potential goes from [tex]+V_0[/tex] to [tex]-V_0[/tex] at [tex]\phi = 0[/tex]. Does that mean the potential at [tex]\phi = 0[/tex] is [tex]0[/tex]? (And likewise at [tex]\phi = \frac{\pi}{2}, \pi, \frac{3\pi}{2}[/tex]?) When many of my constants go to zero and I lose my [tex]\phi[/tex] dependence. I know this is not correct because the potential must be dependent on [tex]\phi[/tex]...

Very confusing for me! and I am sure its confusing for you trying to help me, but if you have any suggestions (especially pertaining to boundary conditions) please tell! Thank you.
 
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Yes, I'm confused. What are theta and phi? In cylindrical co-ordinates you have only one of them.

Here's the general approach:

Write down the general solution of the LE in cylindrical co-ordinates. Look at the radial part - you can eliminate one of the coefficients by inspection. Then look at the angular part. Again, you can eleiminate one coefficient by noticing the symmetry of the boundary potential (for a particular choice of axes, it will be either even or odd). Now finally, set the potential equal to its boundary values at the boundaries and use this to evaluate the Fourier and Bessel coefficients.
 
Sorry about that. I change them all to [tex]\phi[/tex]. I am going to look it over one last time before I ask any other questions. Thanks for your time so far!
 

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