Find the radius of the smaller circle in the tangent problem

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Homework Statement
see attached
Relevant Equations
pythagoras theorem
Find the question here and the solution i.e number 10 indicated as ##6-4\sqrt{2}##,

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I am getting a different solution, my approach is as follows. I made use of pythagoras theorem for the three right angle triangles as follows,
Let radius of the smaller circle be equal to ##c## and distance from mid point of smaller circle to circle with radius ##1=x## then it follows that,
##x^2+(1-c)^2=(1+c)^2##
##x^2=4c##

let us also have the distance from the smaller circle to circle with radius ##2=y##, then it follows that,
##y^2+(2-c)^2=(2+c)^2##
##y^2=8c##

Let ##y^2+x^2=AB##, then it follows that, ##(AB)^2 + (2-1)^2=3^2##
##AB=2\sqrt{2}##
then it follows that, ##\sqrt{8}=2\sqrt{c}+2\sqrt{2c}##

Am i missing something here!

i got it!
##\sqrt{c}##=##\dfrac {\sqrt {8}}{2+2\sqrt{2}}##
⇒##c=0.34314575## Bingo guys! Phew i took time on this men!:cool:
 
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Another approach by introducing Cartesian coordinates.
Equation of circle blue
[tex]x^2+y^2=2^2[/tex]
Equation of circle green
[tex](x-3)^2+y^2=1^2[/tex]
Equation of common tangent line
[tex]y=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}}(x-6)[/tex]
Let equation of circle red be
[tex]x^2+y^2+2px+2qy=r [/tex]
which is tangential to all these three figures. Thus we can have three linear equations of p, q and r, and get
[tex]c=\sqrt{r+p^2+q^2}[/tex]

More simply from the figure
[tex]2\tan^{-1}\frac{c}{4}=tan^{-1}\frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}}[/tex]
[tex]c= 4 \tan (\frac{1}{2}tan^{-1}\frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}})=4\tan (\frac{sin \theta}{1+cos \theta})[/tex]
where ##\theta=tan^{-1}\frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}}##
[tex]c=4\tan \frac{1/3}{1+2\sqrt{2}/3}=4\tan (3-2\sqrt{2})\approx 0.012[/tex]
I should appreciate if you would check whether it works or not.
 
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Another approach by introducing Cartesian coordinates.
Equation of circle blue
[tex]x^2+y^2=2^2[/tex]
Equation of circle green
[tex](x-3)^2+y^2=1^2[/tex]
Equation of common tangent line
[tex]y=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}}(x-6)[/tex]
Let equation of circle red be
[tex]x^2+y^2+2px+2qy=r [/tex]
which is tangential to all these three figures. Thus we can have three linear equations of p, q and r, and get
[tex]c=\sqrt{r+p^2+q^2}[/tex]

More simply from the figure
[tex]2\tan^{-1}\frac{c}{4}=tan^{-1}\frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}}[/tex]
[tex]c= 4 \tan (\frac{1}{2}tan^{-1}\frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}})=4\tan (\frac{sin \theta}{1+cos \theta})[/tex]
where ##\theta=tan^{-1}\frac{1}{2\sqrt{2}}##
[tex]c=4\tan \frac{1/3}{1+2\sqrt{2}/3}=4\tan (3-2\sqrt{2})\approx 0.012[/tex]
I should appreciate if you would check whether it works or not.
[tex]c=4\tan \frac{1/3}{1+2\sqrt{2}/3}=4\tan (3-2\sqrt{2})\approx 0.012[/tex]


I am afraid this does not look correct, i overlooked your solution. I have just checked it in detail...
 
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I made a mistake. Thanks for your effort.
 
  • #5
I was thinking of using linear scale factor...i do not know whether that's possible. i'll try check it out...
 
  • #6
Let me try again. Observing angles which the triangle whose vertexes are center of circles and horizontal line on which center of orange circle lies make,
[tex]\alpha+\beta+\gamma=\pi[/tex]
where
[tex]\sin\alpha=\frac{2-c}{2+c}[/tex]
[tex]\sin\gamma=\frac{1-c}{1+c}[/tex]
[tex]3^2=(2+c)^2+(1+c)^2-2 (2+c)(1+c)\cos\beta[/tex]
This leads to ##c=6-4\sqrt{2}## which is same as OP.
 
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