Find the roots of the given hyperbolic equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the roots of the hyperbolic equation \(x^2 - 2x \cosh u + 1 = 0\). Participants are exploring the properties of hyperbolic functions and their relationships to the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the equation, noting it is quadratic and should yield two roots. Various attempts to express the roots in terms of hyperbolic functions are presented, including the relationships involving \(e^u\) and \(e^{-u}\). Some participants question the completeness of their expressions and seek further insights.

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The discussion is active, with multiple approaches being explored. Some participants have provided algebraic manipulations and interpretations related to special relativity, suggesting a connection to broader concepts. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a textbook problem, and there is an emphasis on deriving insights rather than providing direct solutions. The relationship to special relativity is noted, indicating a potential deeper context for the equation.

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Homework Statement
Find the roots of the following equation in terms of ##u##.

##x^2-2x \cosh u +1 = 0##
Relevant Equations
hyperbolic trigonometric equations
This is a textbook question and i have no solution. My attempt:

We know that ##\cosh x = \dfrac{e^x + e^{-x}}{2}##

and ##\cosh u = \dfrac{{x^2 + 1}}{2x}## it therefore follows that;

##e^{2u} = x^2##

##⇒u = \dfrac {2\ln x}{2}##

##u=\ln x##

##x=e^u ##

Your insight or any other approach welcome guys!
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: Find the roots of the following equation in terms of ##u##.

##x^2-2x \cosh u +1 = 0##
Relevant Equations:: hyperbolic trigonometric equations

This is a textbook question and i have no solution. My attempt:

We know that ##\cosh x = \dfrac{e^x + e^{-x}}{2}##

and ##\cosh u = \dfrac{{x^2 + 1}}{2x}## it therefore follows that;

##e^{2u} = x^2##

##⇒u = \dfrac {2\ln x}{2}##

##u=\ln x##

##x=e^u ##

Your insight or any other approach welcome guys!
What about ##x = e^{-u}##?
 
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It's a quadratic; there should be two roots.

<br /> x^2 - 2x\cosh u + 1 = (x - \cosh u)^2 + 1 - \cosh^2 u = (x - \cosh u)^2 - \sinh^2 u. Hence <br /> x = \cosh u \pm \sinh u = e^{\pm u}.
 
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Simplest is perhaps <br /> x^2 - 2\cosh u + 1 = x^2 - (e^{u} + e^{-u})x + 1 = (x - e^u)(x - e^{-u}) since e^ue^{-u} = 1.
 
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pasmith said:
Simplest is perhaps <br /> x^2 - 2\cosh u + 1 = x^2 - (e^{u} + e^{-u})x + 1 = (x - e^u)(x - e^{-u}) since e^ue^{-u} = 1.
There's an x missing in the 2nd-term (compare with the previous post).

By the way,...
The equation looked familiar to me. It's related to special relativity.
It's the characteristic equation
0=\det\left( \begin{array}{cc} \cosh\theta -\lambda &amp; \sinh\theta \\ \sinh\theta &amp; \cosh\theta -\lambda \end{array}\right)
to find the eigenvalues of the Lorentz boost transformation
(where \theta is the rapidity, \tanh\theta =v/c is the dimensionless-velocity, and \cosh\theta =\gamma=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-(v/c)^2}} is the time-dilation factor ).
The eigenvalues \lambda_{\pm}= e^{\pm \theta} are the Doppler factor (Bondi k-factor) and its reciprocal.
The eigenvectors are along the light-cone \left(\begin{array}{c}1\\\pm 1\end{array}\right).
 
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