Prove the hyperbolic function corresponding to the given trigonometric function

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The discussion revolves around proving the equivalence of hyperbolic and trigonometric functions, specifically the identity 8 sin^4(u) = 3 - 4 cos(2u) + cos(4u) and its hyperbolic counterpart. Participants analyze the transformations using hyperbolic identities and Euler's formula, noting the relationship between sine and hyperbolic sine, as well as cosine and hyperbolic cosine. There is debate over the validity of proof methods, with some arguing that simply showing LHS equals RHS is insufficient without clear logical steps. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need for a thorough understanding of both trigonometric and hyperbolic properties to establish such identities correctly.
  • #31
robphy said:
...Must improve before it can be proved.

(A variant of #6 )
Since \sin (ix) = i \sinh (x),
then \sin (x) = i \sinh (x/i) = i \sinh (-ix)= -i\sinh(ix) = -i\sinh(u) where u=ix.
check: \displaystyle \sin(x)=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}=-i \left(\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2}\right) \stackrel{u=ix}{=}-i \left(\frac{e^{u}-e^{-u}}{2}\right) =-i\sinh(u)​

And since \cos ix = \cosh (x),
then \cos x = \cosh (x/i)= \cosh(-ix) =\cosh(ix) = \cosh(u) where u=ix.
check: \displaystyle \cos(x)=\frac{e^{ix}+e^{-ix}}{2} \stackrel{u=ix}{=} \left(\frac{e^{u}+e^{-u}}{2}\right) =\cosh(u)​

my revisions in redSo,
\begin{align*}
8 \sin^4x &= 3-4\cos 2x+\cos 4x\\
8 \color{red}{(-i \sinh u)}^4 &= 3-4(\color{red}{\cosh 2u})+(\color{red}{\cosh 4u})\\
8 (-i)^4 \sinh^4 u &= \\
8 \phantom{XX} \sinh^4 u &= \\
8 \sinh^4 u &= 3-4\cosh 2u+\cosh 4u\\
&= \ldots\\
&\ \ \vdots\\
\end{align*}
Because (-i)^4=1 (ref: #17 ), you were lucky that you never saw the problem.

In general, one might not be so lucky. (Ref: #2 )
\begin{align*}
1 &= \cos^2 x +\sin^2x \\
&= \color{red}{(\cosh u)}^2 + \color{red}{(-i \sinh u)}^2 \\
&=\cosh^2 u +(-i)^2 \sinh^2 u \\
&=\cosh^2 u +(-1) \sinh^2 u \\
&=\cosh^2 u - \sinh^2 u \\
\end{align*}
which is not what one gets by
replacing [incorrectly] "##\sin x## with ##\sinh x## and ##\cos x## with ##\cosh x##".
check: ##\displaystyle \sin(x)=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}=-i \left(\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2}\right)##

just to be absolutely clear on the referenced...you multiplied the left hand side by ##-i## to arrive at the right hand side. Correct?
 
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  • #32
chwala said:
check: ##\displaystyle \sin(x)=\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2i}=-i \left(\frac{e^{ix}-e^{-ix}}{2}\right)##

just to be absolutely clear on the referenced...you multiplied the left hand side by ##-i## to arrive at the right hand side. Correct?

I multiplied by 1 = \frac{-i}{-i}.
 
  • #33
robphy said:
To me, the question sounds odd.

How would you answer the question if the given equation were
$$1=\cos^2 u +\sin^2 u$$
instead?
I guess the idea is to use
$$\cosh u=\cos(\mathrm{i} u), \quad \sinh u=-\mathrm{i} \sin(\mathrm{i} u).$$
This gives
$$1=\cos^2(\mathrm{i} u) + \sin^2(\mathrm{i} u)=\cosh^2 u-\sinh^2 u.$$
;-)).
 

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