Find the set of all functions that satisfy the inequality

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The discussion revolves around finding the set of all harmonic functions \( u(x,y,z) \) that satisfy a specific inequality in \( \mathbb{R}^3 \). The inequality involves a nonzero constant \( A \) and relates the absolute value of \( u \) to a quadratic expression in \( x, y, z \).

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  • Participants explore various forms of harmonic functions, including exponential and polynomial solutions. Questions arise regarding the behavior of these functions as variables approach infinity and whether they satisfy the given inequality.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing examples of harmonic functions and questioning the validity of certain solutions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions under which specific forms of \( u \) may or may not satisfy the inequality.

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There are ongoing questions about the assumptions made regarding the growth of functions and the implications of the harmonic condition. Participants also discuss the necessity of certain properties for the coefficients in polynomial solutions.

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Problem:

Find the set of all harmonic functions ##u(x,y,z)## that satisfy the following inequality in all of ##R^3##

$$|u(x,y,z)|\leq A+A(x^2+y^2+z^2)$$
where ##A## is a nonzero constant.

Work:

I removed the absolute value bars by re-writing the expression
$$-C-C(x^2+y^2+z^2)\leq u\leq C+C(x^2+y^2+z^2)$$

I am looking for a function ##u## that satisfies ##\Delta u = 0## in ##R^3##, because we can take ##A## as large as needed to satisfy the inequality for any ##u##

List of solutions: all harmonic functions, too many to list.

I suppose one obvious solution is obtained by setting ##\leq \Rightarrow =##

$$\pm u(x,y,z)=C+C(x^2+y^2+z^2)$$

I think the solution is supposed to be in abstract form to describe many types of functions. I don't understand why the term on the right side of the inequality is ##C+C(x^2+y^2+z^2)##. There must be a clue that I am oblivious to. Thank you in advance for any advice.
 
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Hi. I find it an interesting question.
u(x,y,z) has no singularity except infinite far ends.
As an obvious example say
u(x,y,z)=A e^{x+iy}, u is harmonic function,
|u|=A
which satisfies the condition. Similar for ##Ae^{y+iz}## and ##Ae^{z+ix}##.
 
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mitochan said:
Hi. I find it an interesting question.
u(x,y,z) has no singularity except infinite far ends.
As an obvious example say
u(x,y,z)=A e^{x+iy}, u is harmonic function,
|u|=A
which satisfies the condition. Similar for ##Ae^{y+iz}## and ##Ae^{z+ix}##.

|Ae^{x + iy}| = Ae^x. Does that satisfy the bound as x \to \infty?

Consider solutions of the form u = e^{\mathbf{k} \cdot \mathbf{x}} where \mathbf{k} = (k_1,k_2,k_3) \in \mathbb{C}^3. This is harmonic if and only if k_1^2 + k_2^2 + k_3^2 = 0. So either \mathbf{k} = 0 and u is constant, or you can find a \mathbf{v} \in \mathbb{R}^3 such that \mathbf{k} \cdot \mathbf{v} > 0. Consider |u(t\mathbf{v})| as t \to \infty. Does this satisfy the bound?

(EDIT: It is only necessary that \operatorname{Re}(\mathbf{k})\cdot \mathbf{v} > 0.)

The other solutions are polynonial solutions of the form u = a + \mathbf{b} \cdot \mathbf{x} + \mathbf{x}^T C \mathbf{x} for some scalar a, vector \mathbf{b} and symmetric matrix C.
 
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@pasmith

Thank you for your comment, may I ask a few questions about your comment?

pasmith said:
|Aex+iy|=Aex. Does that satisfy the bound as x→∞?

I think |Ae^{x + iy}| does not satisfy the bound because exponential functions increase faster than quadratic functions as x \to \infty. is this true?

pasmith said:
Consider solutions of the form ##u=e^{k⋅x}## where ##k=(k_1,k_2,k_3)∈C^3##. This is harmonic if and only if ##k_1^2+k_2^2+k_3^2=0##. So either ##k=0## and ##u## is constant, or you can find a ##v∈R^3## such that ##k⋅v>0##. Consider ##|u(tv)|## as ##t→∞##. Does this satisfy the bound?

Could you please briefly explain how ##Re(k)⋅v>0## makes a harmonic ##u##?

When ##u=e^{k⋅v}## where k and v are both vectors, isn't ##u## a constant which is included in the polynomial solution?

For ##|u(tv)|##, doesn't this restrict our domain from ##R^3## to lines spanned by ##v##? I'm pretty confused by this and I will be happy if you can give me any explanation at all. Thank you.
 
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is this true?
Yea, it's true.k_1^2+k_2^2+k_3^2=0
means at least one of them has real parts, say ##k_1##, which makes ##e^{k_1x_1} > A+A(x^2+y^2+z^2)## for large x_1 or -x_1.
 
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@pasmith

Thank you for your comment, may I ask a few questions about your comment?

I think |Ae^{x + iy}| does not satisfy the bound because exponential functions increase faster than quadratic functions as x \to \infty. is this true?

Yes.

Could you please briefly explain how ##Re(k)⋅v>0## makes a harmonic ##u##?

When ##u=e^{k⋅v}## where k and v are both vectors, isn't ##u## a constant which is included in the polynomial solution?

For ##|u(tv)|##, doesn't this restrict our domain from ##R^3## to lines spanned by ##v##? I'm pretty confused by this and I will be happy if you can give me any explanation at all. Thank you.

The condition for e^{\mathbf{k} \cdot \mathbf{x}} to be harmonic is that \sum k_i^2 = 0.

You are asked to find functions which satisfy |u(x,y,z)| \leq A(1 + x^2 + y^2 + z^2) for all (x,y,z) \in \mathbb{R}^3. If this bound fails to hold at even a single point, u is not one of the functions you are looking for.

In this case, if \mathbf{k} is not zero then you can find a (non-zero) \mathbf{v} \in \mathbb{R}^3 such that \operatorname{Re}(\mathbf{k}) \cdot \mathbf{v} &gt; 0. This guarantees that <br /> |u(\mathbf{v}t)| = |\exp(\operatorname{Re}(\mathbf{k}) \cdot \mathbf{v} t)| &gt; <br /> A(1 + \|\mathbf{v}\|^2t^2) as t \to \infty. This means that u(x,y,z) \leq A(1 + x^2 + y^2 + z^2) doesn't hold on all of \mathbb{R}^3 for this choice of u.
 
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pasmith said:
The other solutions are polynonial solutions of the form for some scalar , vector and symmetric matrix .

Following this way for ##ax^2,by^2,cz^2## terms to be harmonic
a+b+c=0
for general u(x,y,z) of
u(x,y,z)=ax^2+by^2+cz^2+dxy+eyz+fzx+g
In order to satisfy the magnitude condition roughly
|h|\leq A, h=\{a,b,c,d,e,f,g\}
I have not gone into detailed investigation.
 
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I forgot x,y,z terms
u(x,y,z)=A(ax^2+by^2+cz^2+dxy+eyz+fzx+gx+hy+iz+j)
where
a+b+c=0
Rough estimation is
|k| \leq 1, k=\{a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j\}
 
For simple 1 dimension case ##u(x)=A(ax^2+bx+c)##, a=0,
|bx+c|\leq 1+x^2
b^2+c^2 \leq 1

Two dimension case ##u(x,y)=A(ax^2-ay^2+bxy+cx+dy+e)##,
|ax^2-ay^2+bxy+cx+dy+e|&lt;1+x^2+y^2
Is is not easy.
 
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pasmith said:
The other solutions are polynonial solutions of the form u=a+b⋅x+xTCx for some scalar a, vector b and symmetric matrix C.

May I ask how you need C to be symmetric?

I believe the requirement on C can be reduced to the following:

##u(x_1,x_2,x_3)=a+\vec{b}⋅x+x^tCx##

where ##x^t=(x_1, x_2, x_3)## and ##C∈Mat(3;R)## with ##Tr(C)=0##

mitochan said:
For simple 1 dimension case ##u(x)=A(ax^2+bx+c)##, a=0,
|bx+c|\leq 1+x^2
b^2+c^2 \leq 1

Two dimension case ##u(x,y)=A(ax^2-ay^2+bxy+cx+dy+e)##,
|ax^2-ay^2+bxy+cx+dy+e|&lt;1+x^2+y^2
Is is not easy.

Thank you, your posts are amazing. I believe you can avoid the work of setting the limits on coefficients, because you can make the assumption that A can be taken arbitrarily large, larger than any constant. so the solution is simpler. The cross-terms can be expressed by the matrix C, so we avoid doing even more writing.
 

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