Find the square root of a quantity in what unit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of units when taking the square root of physical quantities, particularly in the context of mass and time. Participants explore the implications of these operations in both mathematical and physical frameworks.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the unit resulting from taking the square root of a quantity, specifically contrasting it with the reciprocal of a quantity.
  • Another participant states that taking the square root of a physical quantity results in the square root of the units as well.
  • A participant proposes a relationship where time is proportional to the square root of mass, seeking clarification on the meaning of the gradient in this context.
  • Another participant challenges the initial claim about time and mass, suggesting that mass might be proportional to the square of time instead, and discusses the importance of unit consistency in such relationships.
  • There is a discussion about the physical interpretation of mathematical operations, emphasizing that not all mathematical manipulations yield physically meaningful results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between time and mass, with no consensus reached on whether time is proportional to the square root of mass or vice versa. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these relationships and their physical interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for careful consideration of units and physical meaning when manipulating mathematical expressions involving physical quantities. There are unresolved questions about the assumptions underlying the proposed relationships.

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Hey all,

this is my first post here, I have just discovered the site, and it looks great :smile:

I need some help on units, regarding square roots.

When you find the reciprocal of a quantity, like say, mass, the new unit is kg-1.

I'm not sure about when you find the square root of a quantity, what unit would it be?

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When you take the square root of a physical quantity you get the square root of the units as well.
 
Thanks Tide!

I'm investigating the relationship between time and mass, and I think I've got it, time is proportional to the square root of mass, but what on Earth does the gradient mean?

time is on the y-axis, square root of mass is on the x-axis
 
"Gradient" generally refers to (rate of) change with respect to spatial position. If you could provide more detail on the problem you are trying to solve then we could offer more clarification.
 
How did you arrive at the idea that "time is proportional to the square root of mass"? I imagine that you have some formula in which something, say a raindrop, is accumulating mass as it falls. In that case, I would be more inclined to say "mass is proportional to the square of time". In order for that to make any sense, your constant of proportionality would have to "fix" the units:
For example, if we have m= ct2, mass is measured in kg and time in seconds, then we have kg= c*sec2 so c must have units of kg/sec2 in order to "cancel" the sec2 and introduce kg into the formula.
Yes, you could also write [itex]t= c\sqrt{m}[/itex] in which case c must have units of [tex]\frac{sec}{\sqrt{kg}}[/tex]. While mathematics does not deal in "cause and effect", physics does. As soon as you introduce "mass" and "time", it makes more sense to me to think of time as the independent variable and mass as the dependent variable!

Notice that just because you can do a mathematical operation doesn't mean it will make physical sense! If A= x2, where A is the area of a square of side length x, then [itex]x= \sqrt{A}[/itex]. Now, there, of course, A would have to be measured in something like "square inches" or "square meters" and, of course, [itex]x= \sqrt{A}[/itex] would me measured in "inches" or "meters". That's why, in formulas, we typically write "square meters" as "m2" or "square inches" as in2.

On the other hand, I would not expect to have any physical quantity with units of [itex]\sqrt{m}[/itex] or [itex]\sqrt{kg}[/itex]. In the examples above, your constants (which may not be "physical" quantities) had to change the units appropriately
 

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