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The problem involves finding the lateral and total surface area of a volume generated by revolving the region bounded by the curves y=4√x, y=0, x=5, and x=12 about the x-axis. The discussion centers around understanding the setup and the correct application of formulas related to surface area in calculus.

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  • Participants discuss the correct interpretation of the radius in the context of the problem, questioning whether it should be y or x. There are attempts to clarify the formula for arc length and surface area, with some participants providing corrections to earlier statements.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning assumptions and clarifying details about the setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of the radius and the integral setup, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the derivative of the function and the correct limits for integration. Participants are also navigating the implications of revolving the region around the x-axis, which affects their understanding of the radius used in calculations.

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Homework Statement


The region bounded by the graphs of the curves y=4√x , y=0, x=5, x=12 is revolved about the x-axis.
a) Find the religion lateral surface area of the generated volume.
b) Find the total surface area of the generated volume, including both ends.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Part a:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/kZIjTDFGufXqICfEMW2J0CpXFuQ8-OfRJlg91DQJRWZlCpsiCzfND45AYeYCfasTzAUca7ZFa9k=w1256-h843

Part b:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jguorhs3qoad_UbPduGEyBG79Y9WVLG0vPzC4YV6Y1sTNV-gbxczDdBbPKr-G5jIH3wO0g=w1256-h843

Thank you so much for taking time.
 
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sun1234 said:

Homework Statement


The region bounded by the graphs of the curves y=4√x , y=0, x=5, x=12 is revolved about the x-axis.
a) Find the religion lateral surface area of the generated volume.
b) Find the total surface area of the generated volume, including both ends.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Part a:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/kZIjTDFGufXqICfEMW2J0CpXFuQ8-OfRJlg91DQJRWZlCpsiCzfND45AYeYCfasTzAUca7ZFa9k=w1256-h843
You have a mistake in the integral on the next to the last line of your first page. The radius is y, not x. Also, you have a typo where you wrote ##y = \frac 2 {\sqrt{x}}##. That should have been y', the derivative.
sun1234 said:
Part b:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jguorhs3qoad_UbPduGEyBG79Y9WVLG0vPzC4YV6Y1sTNV-gbxczDdBbPKr-G5jIH3wO0g=w1256-h843

Thank you so much for taking time.
 
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The formula for arc length is ##2\pi\int{y\sqrt{1 + (y\prime)^{2}}\ dx}## which using that, I got that the arc length is ##8\pi\int{\sqrt{x+4}\ dx}##. The radius r changes with x! :wink:
 
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Mark44 said:
You have a mistake in the integral on the next to the last line of your first page. The radius is y, not x. Also, you have a typo where you wrote ##y = \frac 2 {\sqrt{x}}##. That should have been y', the derivative.
I'm sorry. The question is correct. 2/√x is the derivative of 4√x.
 
sun1234 said:
I'm sorry. The question is correct. 2/√x is the derivative of 4√x.
Yes, I understand that. My comment was that you wrote ##y = \frac 2 {\sqrt{x}}## when you should have written ##y ' = \frac 2 {\sqrt{x}}##

More importantly, your integral is wrong. It should be
##2\pi \int_5^{12} y\sqrt{\frac{x + 4}{x}}dx##
 
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Why is the radius y? I thought the radius is x or (x-5), I'm not not so sure though.
 
For a given x the cross-sections of the solid you're interested in are circles whose centre is at x & whose radii are ##4\sqrt x##.
 
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sun1234 said:
Why is the radius y? I thought the radius is x or (x-5), I'm not not so sure though.
The curve is being rotated around the x-axis, so the radius is y.
 
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Mark44 said:
The curve is being rotated around the x-axis, so the radius is y.
Oh yes, you're right. So I have to change the whole equation then.
fourier jr said:
For a given x the cross-sections of the solid you're interested in are circles whose centre is at x & whose radii are ##4\sqrt x##.
I really appreciate your help.
 

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