Volume of a Parametrised Surface

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The problem involves calculating the volume of a region in R3 defined by a parametrised surface, specifically a surface of revolution given by the function Φ(t,θ). The region V is bounded above by the surface and below by the plane z = 0.

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  • The original poster attempts to perform a change of variables to compute the volume but encounters issues with the Jacobian being zero. Some participants suggest visualizing the surface through cross sections and question the setup of the integral for volume calculation.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the change of variables and the nature of the surface. Some guidance has been provided about treating the surface as a solid of revolution, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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There is uncertainty regarding the correct setup for the integral and the implications of the Jacobian being zero, as well as the nature of the surface being a two-dimensional surface in three-dimensional space.

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Homework Statement


Let C be the parametrised surface given by

Φ(t,θ)=(cosθ/cosht, sinθ/cosht,t−tanht), for 0≤t and 0≤θ<2π

Let V be the region in R3 between the plane z = 0 and the surface C.

Compute the volume of the region V .

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I thought I needed to perform a change of variables; changing from x,y,z to theta,t,z.

I tried to find the Jacobean for this, but it came to zero. I'm pretty sure it was wrong in the first place, but I have no idea what to do otherwise. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
 
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It's a surface of revolution. To visualize what it looks like, figure out what cross sections of constant ##t## are.
 
Here's a picture if that helps you. In the picture ##0\le t \le 5##.
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Thanks heaps! That’s very helpful :smile:

I’m a little uncertain about how to setup the integral to calculate the volume though. Am I correct in needing to perform a change of variables? If so, what am I doing incorrectly that produces a Jacobean of zero?

Thanks :smile:
 
Tom31415926535 said:
Thanks heaps! That’s very helpful :smile:

I’m a little uncertain about how to setup the integral to calculate the volume though. Am I correct in needing to perform a change of variables? If so, what am I doing incorrectly that produces a Jacobean of zero?

Thanks :smile:

You don't do that sort of a change of variables. You have only two parameters so you have a two dimensional surface. In the three dimensions ##x, y, z## that will have zero volume. That's why your Jacobean is zero. The problem is actually easier than that. As I said you can treat it as a solid of revolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_of_revolution
 

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