Find time at which position vector points towards origin

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The discussion focuses on determining the time at which a particle's position vector points towards or away from the origin, given the position vector R=(1-t^2)i+(3t-5t^2)j. Participants clarify that the velocity vector must align with the negative of the position vector to indicate movement towards the origin. They derive equations for velocity and set them equal to the negative position vector, leading to quadratic equations that yield two values for time. The final solution identifies t=1/3 as the time when the particle is moving towards the origin, while t=3 indicates movement away. The discussion emphasizes the need for both components of the position and velocity vectors to be satisfied simultaneously.
  • #31
Taniaz said:
I understand what you're saying but isn't this a little too complicated for a 1 mark A'Level question?
RUber said:
You are looking for one t that satisfies both the i and j components at the same time.
Let v = cR, where c is any non-zero constant. If c is negative then the velocity is pointing toward the origin. When c is positive, the velocity is pointing away from the origin.
##\vec v = c \vec R## means that vx=c Rx and vy =c Ry. Dividing the first equation with the second one, vx/vy=Rx/Ry . Substitute the expressions in terms of t,
\frac{1-t^2}{3t-5t^2}=\frac{-2t}{3-10t}
and solve for t. You get two solutions. One of them means a positive c , the other solution means a negative one.
 
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  • #32
Thank you RUber, Haruspex and ehild for your help! Much appreciated! :)
 
  • #33
Taniaz said:
Thank you RUber, Haruspex and ehild for your help! Much appreciated! :)
If you are familiar with cross products, another route is to note that the collinearity of the position and velocity vectors means their cross product is zero. This avoids bringing in c and gives you an equation in t only (though it might be nasty). Having extracted the possible values of t, you could then evaluate the two vectors at those times to find out which has velocity towards the origin and which away.
 
  • #34
So I got that t= 1/3 and t = 3
At t=3, c = 3/4 and at t=1/3, c = -3/4
So at t=1/3 it's pointing towards the origin.
 
  • #35
Taniaz said:
So I got that t= 1/3 and t = 3
At t=3, c = 3/4 and at t=1/3, c = -3/4
So at t=1/3 it's pointing towards the origin.
Looks right.
 

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