Find Unit Vector Orthogonal to a & b - Help Needed

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a unit vector that is orthogonal to two given vectors, 'a' and 'b', with a specific condition on the first coordinate. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques related to vector calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster presents a problem involving vectors 'a' and 'b' and seeks assistance in finding a unit vector orthogonal to both.
  • The original poster's initial answer is noted as being partially correct, specifically indicating that only one component is accurate.
  • Some participants suggest that the original poster likely made an error in calculating or dividing by the magnitude of the cross product, which is the standard method for obtaining a unit vector.
  • Another participant concurs with the assessment of the original poster's method and emphasizes the importance of correctly applying the division by the vector's magnitude.
  • The original poster acknowledges the feedback and indicates that they have identified their mistake.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method for finding the unit vector but do not reach a consensus on the specifics of the original poster's calculations. The discussion remains focused on identifying errors rather than resolving the overall problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the specific calculations or assumptions made by the original poster, nor does it provide details on the magnitude of the cross product or the resulting vector components.

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hi! I'm new to the forums, and had a question that was more calculus-related than physics. i saw another post similar to this one, but it was incomplete and i couldn't get the answer with the information on it, any chance someone could help me out?

The question is:
"Find a unit vector with a positive first coordinate that's orthogonal to both 'a' and 'b'
a=<1,8,1>
b=<1,16,1>"

the answer i got (which is only 1/3 right) was <1/8,0,-1/8>

i've tried using cross products, and then dividing by the magnitude of the cross product to get the unit vector, but only get the j variable right, and not i and k. I've also tried projecting a onto b (and visa versa) to find parallel vectors, and then trying the cross product again, but still can't seem to get the right answer. Any ideas?
 
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The vector you get is certainly orthogonal to both a and b, but it isn't a unit vector. This leads me to believe that you made some sort of mistake when you computed/divided by the magnitude of the cross product.
 


morphism said:
The vector you get is certainly orthogonal to both a and b, but it isn't a unit vector. This leads me to believe that you made some sort of mistake when you computed/divided by the magnitude of the cross product.

I second this. I didn't do the work myself, but dividing the components of the vector by the magnitude of the vector is the correct method to use so you probably did make a mistake in your calculations.
 


you're both right, and i found the error. thank's a lot
 

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