Find Values of a for Integral Calculus Homework

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The problem involves finding values of \( a > 0 \) such that the integral \( \int_{a}^{a^2} \frac{1}{1+x^2} dx = 0.22 \). This relates to integral calculus and trigonometric identities.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss integrating the function and manipulating the resulting equation involving arctangent. There are attempts to apply trigonometric identities and check for correctness in the integration process.

Discussion Status

The discussion has seen various attempts to manipulate the equation, with some participants questioning the correctness of their trigonometric approaches. Guidance has been provided regarding the application of tangent to both sides of the equation. Multiple interpretations of the results are being explored, and some participants have noted discrepancies with expected answers.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on finding positive values of \( a \) and some participants have noted potential missing values in the provided solutions. The discussion also highlights confusion regarding the use of degrees versus radians in calculations.

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Homework Statement



Find the values of a > 0, such that \int_{a }^{a^2} \frac{1}{1+x^2} dx = 0.22

The Attempt at a Solution



I integrated it and got:

\int_{a }^{a^2} \frac{1}{1+x^2} dx = 0.22

arctan(a^2) - arctan(a) = 0.22

I am stuck after this, how would I solve this :-/

Thanks
 
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Just apply <tangent> on both sides of your equation, use some trigonometry and see what you get
 
a^2 - a - tan(0.22) = 0
I got 1.188 and -0.188
The correct answer is a = 2.04, 2.62
 
You might want to look up (or prove) the correct identity for \tan (A-B).
 
fzero said:
You might want to look up (or prove) the correct identity for \tan (A-B).

I don't think that the tangent is the problem. I think my equation is wrong for some reason. Because when I graphed it the points don't make sense.

Do you see anything wrong with my math (integrating 1/(1+x^2) etc.)?
 
The integration is ok. The trigonometry is the issue.
 
bigubau said:
The integration is ok. The trigonometry is the issue.

Then why doesn't the answer from the key work in the equation :-/
 
planauts said:
Then why doesn't the answer from the key work in the equation :-/

Are you using degrees instead of radians?
 
Let's try it with 2.04

Equation proofing is: arctan (2.04^2) = 76.488 deg. arctan 2.04 = 63.886 deg. Difference is 13.602 degrees = 0.23 radians.

So it's correct. The other solution can be checked for accuracy in the same manner.
 
  • #10
bigubau said:
Let's try it with 2.04

Equation proofing is: arctan (2.04^2) = 76.488 deg. arctan 2.04 = 63.886 deg. Difference is 13.602 degrees = 0.23 radians.

So it's correct. The other solution can be checked for accuracy in the same manner.

You are saying that arctan(a^2) - arctan(a) = 0.22 is the correct equation.

So that's good. But now the problem is manipulating the equation to get the value of a.
How would I do that?

You said:
bigubau said:
Just apply <tangent> on both sides of your equation, use some trigonometry and see what you get

I think that is where I made the mistake...I have to apply <tangent> to the whole "left hand" side as a one. I split the tangent and distributed it. I don't think that is allowed.

So if I change it: tan[arctan(a^2) - arctan(a)] = tan(0.22)

Is this what fzero meant?
eal6jk.jpg


\frac{a^2 - a}{1 - a^2 * a} = \frac{a^2 - a}{1 - a^3} = 0.22

a^2 - a = 0.22 (1 - a^3)
0 = 0.22 - 0.22 a^3 - a^2 + a

I got a = 1 OR a = -5.3588 OR a = -0.2866
 
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  • #11
planauts said:
Is this what fzero meant?
eal6jk.jpg

Yes but

\tan(\theta_1 - \theta_2 ) = \frac{\tan \theta_1 - \tan\theta_2}{1 + \tan \theta_1 \tan\theta_2},

so you should find

\frac{a^2 - a}{1 \mathbf{+} a^2 * a} = \frac{a^2 - a}{1 \mathbf{+} a^3} = 0.22
 
  • #12
Looks likes a nasty cubic one gets. Cardano's formulae should be used to solve it or Maple, Mathematica if you have them.
 
  • #13
fzero said:
Yes but

\tan(\theta_1 - \theta_2 ) = \frac{\tan \theta_1 - \tan\theta_2}{1 + \tan \theta_1 \tan\theta_2},

so you should find

\frac{a^2 - a}{1 \mathbf{+} a^2 * a} = \frac{a^2 - a}{1 \mathbf{+} a^3} = 0.22

I got -0.184556093 and 1.946862606 = a, which still isn't right :(
 
  • #14
fzero said:
Yes but

\tan(\theta_1 - \theta_2 ) = \frac{\tan \theta_1 - \tan\theta_2}{1 + \tan \theta_1 \tan\theta_2},

so you should find

\frac{a^2 - a}{1 \mathbf{+} a^2 * a} = \frac{a^2 - a}{1 \mathbf{+} a^3} = 0.22

planauts said:
I got -0.184556093 and 1.946862606 = a, which still isn't right :(

There's still a little mistake there. You are taking tangent value on both sides, remember? :)

So, it should read something like this:
\tan \left( \arctan(a ^ 2) - \arctan(a) \right) = \tan (0.22)
\Leftrightarrow \frac{a ^ 2 - a}{1 + a ^ 3} = \tan (0.22).

Can you take it from here? :)

And, by the way, the book seems to have missed one possible value for a.
 
  • #15
VietDao29 said:
There's still a little mistake there. You are taking tangent value on both sides, remember? :)

So, it should read something like this:
\tan \left( \arctan(a ^ 2) - \arctan(a) \right) = \tan (0.22)
\Leftrightarrow \frac{a ^ 2 - a}{1 + a ^ 3} = \tan (0.22).

Can you take it from here? :)

And, by the way, the book seems to have missed one possible value for a.

Oh my god! Thank you so much. I don't know why I wasn't seeing this...
I got 2.61737, 2.0416455 AND -0.223619421 as the roots.

Thanks to everyone who helped me, especially fzero :)
 
  • #16
planauts said:
Oh my god! Thank you so much. I don't know why I wasn't seeing this...
I got 2.61737, 2.0416455 AND -0.223619421 as the roots.

Thanks to everyone who helped me, especially fzero :)

Yup, looks good to me.

However, since the problem just asks for positive values of a (a > 0), so you don't need to take a = -0.223619421 into consideration.
 

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