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The problem involves two point charges, one of 8nC located at x=-1m and another of 12nC at x=3m. The goal is to determine the position along the x-axis where the electric field due to these charges is zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to set up the equation for the electric fields due to both charges and solve for x. Some participants question the validity of the proposed solution of x=1.8m, suggesting it may not be correct based on the distances from the charges.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the setup of the problem and the calculations involved. There is a divergence in opinions regarding the correctness of the answer provided in the book, with some suggesting that the balance point should be closer to the weaker charge. The discussion is ongoing, with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the question specifically asks for the point on the x-axis where the electric field is zero, and there is speculation about a possible error in the book's answer. The constraints of the problem are acknowledged, particularly the requirement that the solution must lie between the two charges.

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Homework Statement


Charge 1 is 8nC and is located at x=-1m. Charge 2 is 12nC and is located at x=3m. Find x where e field is equal to 0 due to the 2 charges.

Homework Equations


e=kq/(r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer is x=1.8, but I just can't seem to get anywhere near that. I know that x has to be between -1m and 3m b/c the E-field due to the 2 charges can only cancel out when x is in between.
E1=e field due to charge 1
E2=e field due to charge 2

0=E1-E2 <<<it's minus because E2 is acting in the negative directive
0=kq1/(x+1)^2 - kq2/(3-x)^2
0=8/(x+1)^2 - 12/(3-x)^2 <<canceled out k and 10^-9 from the nano.
8/(x+1)^2 = 12/(3-x)^2 << the answer is 1.8, I don't want to write out the rest so just plug 1.8 in. When you plug it in it doesn't equal each other.
From that my answer isn't even close to 1.8m. I think I messed up somewhere in the denominator of the equation above, but I can't see how.
 
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I don't think you messed up your equation. It looks fine to me. What did you get for an answer? x=1.8m doesn't look like a correct answer to me.
 
Dick said:
I don't think you messed up your equation. It looks fine to me. What did you get for an answer? x=1.8m doesn't look like a correct answer to me.

x=1.8 was the answer in the book and it really makes sense if you draw out the 2 charges.
I'll carry on with my calculations
8/(x+1)^2 = 12/(3-x)^2 << the answer is 1.8, I don't want to write out the rest so just plug 1.8 in. When you plug it in it doesn't equal each other.

8/(x^2+2x+1)=12/(x^2-6x+9)
1/(x^2+2x+1)=1.5/(x^2-6x+9)
now I cross multiplied and got 1.5x^2+3x+1.5=x^2-6x+9
.5x^2+9x-7.5=0
x=.8
 
pyroknife said:
...and it really makes sense if you draw out the 2 charges.
What's your reasoning on that? I agree with Dick that x=1.8m doesn't seem like the right answer.
 
pyroknife said:
x=1.8 was the answer in the book and it really makes sense if you draw out the 2 charges.
I'll carry on with my calculations
8/(x+1)^2 = 12/(3-x)^2 << the answer is 1.8, I don't want to write out the rest so just plug 1.8 in. When you plug it in it doesn't equal each other.

8/(x^2+2x+1)=12/(x^2-6x+9)
1/(x^2+2x+1)=1.5/(x^2-6x+9)
now I cross multiplied and got 1.5x^2+3x+1.5=x^2-6x+9
.5x^2+9x-7.5=0
x=.8

x around 0.8 is what I get. That puts it at a distance of 1.8 from the charge at x=(-1) and a distance of 2.2 from the charge at x=3. The solution of x=1.8 is a distance of 2.8 from the charge at x=(-1) and a distance of 1.2 from the charge at x=3. That's clearly wrong, right? The balance point should be closer to the weaker charge, yes? Are you sure they didn't ask you how far from the leftmost charge is the balance point?
 
diazona said:
What's your reasoning on that? I agree with Dick that x=1.8m doesn't seem like the right answer.
Sorry my reasoning behind that is poor. I just assumed it was right since it was between -1 and 3m.
Dick said:
x around 0.8 is what I get. That puts it at a distance of 1.8 from the charge at x=(-1) and a distance of 2.2 from the charge at x=3. The solution of x=1.8 is a distance of 2.8 from the charge at x=(-1) and a distance of 1.2 from the charge at x=3. That's clearly wrong, right? The balance point should be closer to the weaker charge, yes? Are you sure they didn't ask you how far from the leftmost charge is the balance point?

The question is exactly as follows "find the point on the x-axis where the electric field is 0." Maybe the book made a mistake, it's happened before.
 
pyroknife said:
Sorry my reasoning behind that is poor. I just assumed it was right since it was between -1 and 3m.


The question is exactly as follows "find the point on the x-axis where the electric field is 0." Maybe the book made a mistake, it's happened before.

It's clear it has to me. It's a distance of 1.8 meters from the left charge. It's not at x=1.8.
 

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