Finding a formula from a single variable differentiable function

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The problem involves a differentiable function of a single variable, where a function F(x,y) is defined in terms of another function f. The specific context is to find a formula for F(x,y) given that F(0,y) equals sin(y) for all y.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between F(0,y) and sin(y), exploring how the definition of F(x,y) leads to conclusions about the function f. There are attempts to clarify the reasoning behind certain transformations and substitutions made in the expressions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing detailed breakdowns of their reasoning. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in the mathematical formalism used, and while multiple interpretations of the steps are being explored, there is no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion regarding the transitions between different forms of the function and the implications of the definitions provided. The discussion reflects a need for further clarification on the assumptions made about the function f and its relationship to the sine function.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that f is a differentiable function of a single variable and F(x,y) is defined by F(x,y) = f(x^2 - y)

Problem: Given that F(0,y) = sin y for all y, find a formula for F(x,y)


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The Attempt at a Solution



This is what the tutor had put up on the board, but I couldn't make any sense of it:

F(0,y) = sin y
F(0,y) = f(-y) = sin y = sin (-(-y))

F(x,y) = sin (-(x^2-y)) = sin(y-x^2)


I understand that he got f(-y), and given the equation at the start that it results in sin y, but I do not understand how he got sin (-(-y)) and onwards.
 
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[itex]F(0,y)=\sin(y)[/itex]
but also, since [itex]F(x,y)=f(x^2-y)\Rightarrow F(0,y)=f(x^2-y)|_{x=0}=f(-y)\,\,\mathrm{hence}\,\, F(0,y)=\sin(y)=f(-y)\Rightarrow\\ f(y)=\sin(-y)\Rightarrow f(\xi)=\sin(-\xi)\Rightarrow F(x,y)=f(x^2-y)=\sin(-\xi)|_{\xi=x^2-y}=\sin(y-x^2)[/itex]

Got it?
 
DiracRules said:
[itex]F(0,y)=\sin(y)[/itex]

but also, since [itex]F(x,y)=f(x^2-y)\Rightarrow F(0,y)=f(x^2-y)|_{x=0}=f(-y)\,\,\mathrm{hence}\,\, F(0,y)=\sin(y)=f(-y)\Rightarrow[/itex]

[itex]f(y)=\sin(-y)\Rightarrow f(\xi)=\sin(-\xi)\Rightarrow F(x,y)=f(x^2-y)=\sin(-\xi)|_{\xi=x^2-y}=\sin(y-x^2)[/itex]

Got it?
Just making it more readable.
 
Sorry, sometimes mathematic formalism takes over me :D

[itex]F(0,y)=\sin(y)[/itex](1)
but also, since
[itex]F(x,y)=f(x^2-y)[/itex]if you evaluate [itex]F(0,y)[/itex] you get [itex]f(x^2-y)|_{x=0}=f(-y)[/itex] hence, from (1), you get [itex]F(0,y)=\sin(y)=f(-y)[/itex]. From here, we can deduce the function of a single variable [itex]f(\xi)=\sin(-\xi)[/itex] (we call it [itex]f(\xi)[/itex] for clarity). So [itex]F(x,y)[/itex] is [itex]f(\xi)[/itex] evaluated for [itex]\xi=x^2-y[/itex]: [itex]F(x,y)=f(\xi)|_{\xi=x^2-y}=\sin(-\xi)|_{\xi=x^2-y}=\sin(y-x^2)[/itex]

Is it clearer?
 

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