Uniform Continuity of functions

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The discussion centers on the uniform continuity of three specific functions: tan(x) on [0, π/2), (1/x)sin²(x) on (0, π], and (1/(x-3)) on various intervals. Participants explore the definitions of uniform continuity, emphasizing that it requires a delta that does not depend on the point in the domain, contrasting it with regular continuity. For tan(x), it is suggested that it is not uniformly continuous due to the behavior near π/2, where the function becomes unbounded. The conversation also touches on the importance of rigorous proofs and the need to demonstrate that for any epsilon, a delta can be found that satisfies the uniform continuity condition. Overall, the thread encourages deeper understanding of uniform continuity through examples and proofs.
  • #31
mathwonk said:
1) a uniformly continuous function is bounded on a bounded domain.
2) a function whose derivative is bounded on an interval is also Lipschitz continuous on that interval, hence also uniformly continuous.

that does it for all parts. (note that a restriction of a uniformly continuous function from an infinite interval to a finite subinterval is still uniformly continuous.)
Those are great proofs. But then I took a look at the text book this problem was in and those facts are not available at that point in the text. The book does have a theorem using Cauchy sequences and a nice example proof using it.
 
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  • #32
those facts follow from the definitions and the mean value theorem. of course perhaps the MVT was not available, but it usually occurs a few pages after the definition of a derivative.

even without that criterion, the problems follow with a little work.
the derivative criterion is only used in problems 2 and 4. 2 already follows if one knows the given function has a finite limit at 0, plus the fact that a continuous function on a closed bound interval is uniformly so. 4 follows from the same fact plus the fact that the given function is bounded and decreasing, (by separating the infinite interval into a finite one, plus an infinite one on which delta(f) is everywhere less than epsilon).
but maybe they also do not know continuous functions are uniformly cont. on compact domains?
 
  • #33
mathwonk said:
those facts follow from the definitions and the mean value theorem. of course perhaps the MVT was not available, but it usually occurs a few pages after the definition of a derivative.
Good point. In that text, they haven't gotten to derivatives. The Cauchy sequence theorem and an associated example proof that a function is not uniformly continuous precedes the problem in the OP. That was the approach @Bling Fizikst was attempting to use in post #15. I tried to help him use that approach in post #19.
 
  • #34
FactChecker said:
Good point, but not when the domain is an open set. Several of the examples in the OP are on open sets with a singularity at an open end of the domain.
This statement has nothing to do with what I said. Cauchy sequences and converging series are the same thing for real numbers, and convergence compatibility of a function is equivalent to simple continuity. There is no such thing as a "Cauchyness".
 
  • #35
WWGD said:
It's standard definition for a metric space. At any rate, just use the map ##f(x)=1/x##, from ##(0,1)\rightarrow \mathbb R## and consider the Cauchy sequence ##\{1/n \} ## in ##(0,1)##. It's mapped into the non-Cauchy sequence ##\{1,2,3 ...\}##.
The map ##x\longmapsto 1/x## is not uniformly continuous on ##(0,1]##, as by the way, I already mentioned in my first reply in post #3. But that has nothing to do with Cauchy sequences.

Uniform continuity implies continuity which is equivalent to
$$
\displaystyle{\lim_{n \to \infty}f(x_n)=f(\lim_{n \to \infty}x_n)}
$$
that is equivalent to the use of Cauchy sequences instead of converging sequences over the reals. Your example just says that the first implication isn't reversible, as by the way, I already mentioned in my first reply in post #3. It is the non-existing limit at ##0## that matters.

The use of Cauchy sequences in this thread is simply off-topic. Yes, it makes things more convenient as you automatically have ##|x_n-x_m|<\delta## without bothering the limit ##x_0.## However, the triangle inequality solves this problem, as by the way, I already mentioned in my reply in post #25.
 
  • #36
The OP may wish to note that
  • a function which is continuous on a closed bounded interval is uniformly continuous, and
  • a function which is (uniformly) continuous on a closed, bounded interval is uniformly continuous on any subinterval.

If these facts are not known to you, then you should prove them.
 
  • #37
fresh_42 said:
The map ##x\longmapsto 1/x## is not uniformly continuous on ##(0,1]##, as by the way, I already mentioned in my first reply in post #3. But that has nothing to do with Cauchy sequences.

Uniform continuity implies continuity which is equivalent to
$$
\displaystyle{\lim_{n \to \infty}f(x_n)=f(\lim_{n \to \infty}x_n)}
$$
that is equivalent to the use of Cauchy sequences instead of converging sequences over the reals. Your example just says that the first implication isn't reversible, as by the way, I already mentioned in my first reply in post #3. It is the non-existing limit at ##0## that matters.

The use of Cauchy sequences in this thread is simply off-topic. Yes, it makes things more convenient as you automatically have ##|x_n-x_m|<\delta## without bothering the limit ##x_0.## However, the triangle inequality solves this problem, as by the way, I already mentioned in my reply in post #25.
It does have to see with Cauchy sequences as it's the weakest condition needed to take Cauchy sequences to.Cauchy sequences. If continuity alone is enough, why doesn't ##f(x)=1/x## take the Cauchy sequence ##\{1/n\}## to a Cauchy sequence, rather than taking it to ## \{ 1,2,...\}##? Issue here is that ##f## isn't even defined at ##x=0##
 
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  • #38
fresh_42 said:
This statement has nothing to do with what I said. Cauchy sequences and converging series are the same thing for real numbers, and convergence compatibility of a function is equivalent to simple continuity. There is no such thing as a "Cauchyness".
IMO, if the domain is an open set, a Cauchy sequence is simpler to talk about than convergent sequences. The OP example of ##\tan(x)## on ##[0, \pi/2)## is such a case. Furthermore, the text book's theorem, examples, and the proof attempt in post #15 are all in terms of Cauchy sequences.
I believe that it is important for a person to learn to use the proven theorems and lemmas, as stated.
 
  • #39
FactChecker said:
2) I had to edit your Latex to read your post.
I edited the post you referred to, so the LaTeX is fixed now.
 
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  • #40
I am sorry for my late response .
I think i have gained some experience over time on this topic.
For the second problem :
##f(x)=\frac{\sin^2 x}{x}##

Consider the extension of ##f##: $$g(x)= 0 , x=0$$ $$g(x)=\frac{\sin^2 x}{x} , x\in(0,\pi]$$
Since ##g(x)## is continuous on ##[0,\pi]## this implies ##g## is uniformly continuous on ##[0,\pi]## this implies ##f## is uniformly continuous on ##(0,\pi]##

For the third problem :
##f(x)=\frac{1}{x-3}##

in ##(0,3)##:

Consider ##x_n=3-\frac{1}{n}## and ##y_n=3-\frac{1}{n+1}## such that ##\lim |x_n-y_n|=0## but $$\lim |f(x_n)-f(y_n)|=|n-(n+1)|=1\neq 0$$
As we know that if there exists two sequences ##x_n## and ##y_n## in a given ##S## such that ##\lim |x_n-y_n|= 0## and ##\lim|f(x_n)-f(y_n)|\neq 0## then ##f## is NOT unifomrly continuous on ##S##
Hence , ##f## is NOT uniformly continuous here .

in ##(4,\infty)##:
this means ##\frac{1}{x-3}\in(0,1)##:
Choose ##\delta=\epsilon##
$$|\frac{1}{x-3}-\frac{1}{y-3}|=\frac{|x-y|}{|x-3||y-3|}<|x-y|<\epsilon$$
Hence , ##f## is uniformly continuous in ##(4,\infty)##

in ##(3,\infty)##:
Consider ##x_n=3+\frac{1}{n}## and ##y_n=3+\frac{1}{n+1}##
$$\lim |x_n-y_n|=0$$
$$\lim|f(x_n)-f(y_n)|=|n-(n+1)|=1\neq 0$$
Hence , ##f## is NOT uniformly continuous in ##(3,\infty)##
 
  • #41
Bling Fizikst said:
I am sorry for my late response .
I think i have gained some experience over time on this topic.
For the second problem :
##f(x)=\frac{\sin^2 x}{x}##

Consider the extension of ##f##: $$g(x)= 0 , x=0$$ $$g(x)=\frac{\sin^2 x}{x} , x\in(0,\pi]$$
Since ##g(x)## is continuous on ##[0,\pi]## this implies ##g## is uniformly continuous on ##[0,\pi]## this implies ##f## is uniformly continuous on ##(0,\pi]##

For the third problem :
##f(x)=\frac{1}{x-3}##

in ##(0,3)##:

Consider ##x_n=3-\frac{1}{n}## and ##y_n=3-\frac{1}{n+1}## such that ##\lim |x_n-y_n|=0## but $$\lim |f(x_n)-f(y_n)|=|n-(n+1)|=1\neq 0$$
As we know that if there exists two sequences ##x_n## and ##y_n## in a given ##S## such that ##\lim |x_n-y_n|= 0## and ##\lim|f(x_n)-f(y_n)|\neq 0## then ##f## is NOT unifomrly continuous on ##S##
Hence , ##f## is NOT uniformly continuous here .

in ##(4,\infty)##:
this means ##\frac{1}{x-3}\in(0,1)##:
Choose ##\delta=\epsilon##
$$|\frac{1}{x-3}-\frac{1}{y-3}|=\frac{|x-y|}{|x-3||y-3|}<|x-y|<\epsilon$$
Hence , ##f## is uniformly continuous in ##(4,\infty)##

in ##(3,\infty)##:
Consider ##x_n=3+\frac{1}{n}## and ##y_n=3+\frac{1}{n+1}##
$$\lim |x_n-y_n|=0$$
$$\lim|f(x_n)-f(y_n)|=|n-(n+1)|=1\neq 0$$
Hence , ##f## is NOT uniformly continuous in ##(3,\infty)##
That all looks good to me.
 

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