How to Determine a Differential Equation from a Given Solution?

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The discussion focuses on determining a homogeneous linear differential equation with constant coefficients from the given solution, y = C1sin(3x) + C2cos(3x). The correct approach involves recognizing that the original equation must have complex roots 3i and -3i, leading to the characteristic equation λ² + 9 = 0. The corresponding ordinary differential equation (ODE) is d²y/dx² + 9y = 0. Participants emphasize the importance of differentiating the solution to eliminate constants and derive the differential equation accurately.

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Q. Determine a homogeneous linear differential equation with constant coefficients having having the following solution:

y = C1sin3x + C2cos3x

My idea is to differntiate both sides with respect to x and come up with an equation in dy/dx

what else? can be done...

Is my idea correct.
 
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Hello,

Since the solution is in the form y=ASin3x+BCos3x,
The original equation must have complex roots 3i and -3i.
Thus, a possible solution is d^2y/dx^2+9=0. =)
 
Not every differential equation is a first order equation!
 
estalniath said:
Hello,

Since the solution is in the form y=ASin3x+BCos3x,
The original equation must have complex roots 3i and -3i.
Thus, a possible solution is d^2y/dx^2+9=0. =)

Pay attention.The characteristic equation is

\lambda^{2}+9=0

,but the ODE is

\frac{d^{2}y}{dx^2}+9y=0

Okay?


Daniel.
 
Can somebody explain how they arrived at \lambda^{2}+9=0

I know that the two roots are 3i and -3i. I had figured out this already.
 
Suppose you were given \lambda^{2}+9=0

How would factor it , in order to find the two values for \lambda
 
By multiplying (\lambda-3i)(\lambda+3i) and equating it to 0...?

Daniel.
 
Yup I got it thanks!
 
Thanks for pointing that out Daniel! I guess that I took the "y" there for granted every time I used the characteristic solution to get the y_h
 
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By the way- this was clearly a simple problem because the given combination was clearly a solution to a linear equation with constant coefficients. It's not always that simple. In general, given a combination of functions with TWO "unknown constants", you form the simplest equation, involving differentials, the eliminates those constants.

If you did NOT recognize y= C1cos(3x)+ C2sin(3x) as coming from λ= 3i and -3i, you could have done this:
Since you are seeking a differential equation: DIFFERENTIATE-
y'= -3 C1 sin(3x)+ 3 C2 cos(3x).
Since there are two unknown constants, DIFFERENTIATE AGAIN-
y"= -9 C1 cos(3x)- 9 C2 sin(3x).

Now do whatever algebraic manipulations you need to eliminate the two constants.

(In this example, of course, just add y" and 3y.)
 

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