Finding a Minimum Value for a Continuous Function on a Compact Set

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The discussion revolves around proving the existence of a minimum value for a continuous function defined on a compact set, specifically focusing on the implications of the extreme value theorem (EVT) and the positivity of the function.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the application of the extreme value theorem to establish the minimum value of the function. Questions arise regarding the definition of the constant c and its relationship to the function values, particularly its positivity.

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Some participants affirm the correctness of the original poster's approach while questioning the notation and implications of defining c. There is an ongoing exploration of why c must be greater than zero, with references to the properties of the function and its values.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the notation used for c and its mapping under the function f, as well as the implications of the function being strictly positive on the compact set.

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Suppose S[itex]\subset[/itex]ℝn is compact, f: S-->R is continous, and f(x)>0 for every x [itex]\in[/itex]S. Show that there is a number c>0 such that f(x) ≥ c for every x[itex]\in[/itex]S.
Attempt:
Since S is contained in Rn is compact, then S is closed and bounded.
By the extreme value thm there exists values a,b that are an absolute minimum and absolute maximum respectively. Let c = f(a). Therefore by EVT f(c) ≤ f(x) in R.Well I have the solution manual and their solution is way different to what I attempted. Is there anything right about this?
 
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Your solution is correct. You might want to explain why c>0 however.
 
trap101 said:
Therefore by EVT f(c) ≤ f(x) in R.

Also, this should be c≤f(x).
 
micromass said:
Also, this should be c≤f(x).

But isn't c [itex]\in[/itex] S. SO wouldn't the function map c to f(c)?


micromass said:
Your solution is correct. You might want to explain why c>0 however.


Is the fact c having to be positive because if c < 0 ==> f(a) < f(c) ?
 
trap101 said:
But isn't c [itex]\in[/itex] S. SO wouldn't the function map c to f(c)?

You defined c=f(a). So c is an element of [itex]f(S)\subseteq \mathbb{R}[/itex]. Writing f(c) makes no sense.

Is the fact c having to be positive because if c < 0 ==> f(a) < f(c) ?

Again, f(c) makes no sense.
 
got it now, thanks foe the help.
 

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