Finding a subsequence from a sequence that converges

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a real sequence defined by a specific pattern of numbers, including 0, 1, and fractions that approach 1. Participants are tasked with identifying which real numbers can be the limit of some subsequence of this sequence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion about the nature of the question, particularly regarding how a subsequence can converge to multiple values. There are attempts to identify specific subsequences and their limits, with some questioning the validity of their selections.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring various subsequences and their convergence properties. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definition of a subsequence and examples of converging subsequences, but there is no consensus on the complete understanding of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original sequence does not converge as a whole, but contains multiple subsequences that may converge to different limits. There is an emphasis on the requirement for subsequences to maintain the original order of terms.

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Homework Statement


a real sequence (x[itex]_{n}[/itex]) is defined as follows: we take the elements in order (starting from
x0) to be

0, 1 , 0 , 1/10 , 2/10 ,... , 9/10, 1 0 , 1/100 ,2/100 ,..., 99/100 , 1 , 0 , 1/1000,...

So we take p for p = 0, 1, then p/10 for p = 0; ... 10, then p=100 for p = 0; ..., 100 and so on.
Which real numbers A have the property that some subsequence of (xn) converges to A?


Hi,

I am abit confused by what the question is asking do they want me to pick some values from the sequence and then this subsequence should converge to those values. But how can the sequence converge to all those values I have picked surely it can only converge to one of those values. I do not think I understand the question.

Help appreciated thanks.
 
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ppy said:

Homework Statement


a real sequence (x[itex]_{n}[/itex]) is defined as follows: we take the elements in order (starting from
x0) to be

0, 1 , 0 , 1/10 , 2/10 ,... , 9/10, 1 0 , 1/100 ,2/100 ,..., 99/100 , 1 , 0 , 1/1000,...

So we take p for p = 0, 1, then p/10 for p = 0; ... 10, then p=100 for p = 0; ..., 100 and so on.
Which real numbers A have the property that some subsequence of (xn) converges to A?


Hi,

I am abit confused by what the question is asking do they want me to pick some values from the sequence and then this subsequence should converge to those values. But how can the sequence converge to all those values I have picked surely it can only converge to one of those values. I do not think I understand the question.

Help appreciated thanks.

The given sequence doesn't converge. But it has lots of different subsequences that converge. Can you think of some?
 
yes for example x4 to x13 which is the numbers from 1/10 to 1 converges to 1. is this all the question is asking? for me to write down different subsequences that converge to any number?
 
ppy said:
yes for example x4 to x13 which is the numbers from 1/10 to 1 converges to 1. is this all the question is asking? for me to write down different subsequences that converge to any number?

A subsequence of a sequence has to contain an infinite number of elements in the original sequence and in the same order. So, no, that's not one. Try again!
 
I don't understand how u can find a subsequence that converges by keeping the terms in the same order because the terms will get larger then smaller then larger etc. so surely they are not converging to anything
 
ppy said:
I don't understand how u can find a subsequence that converges by keeping the terms in the same order because the terms will get larger then smaller then larger etc. so surely they are not converging to anything

Pick all of the terms that are 0. There are an infinite number of them, so that gives you the subsequence {0,0,0,0,0,...}. Which clearly converges to 0. Now find some more subsequences that converge.
 

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