Finding a tangent line to a level curve - Don't understand solution

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The problem involves finding the gradient vector of the function f(x,y) = xy at the point (3,2) and using it to determine the tangent line to the level curve f(x,y) = 6 at that point. Participants are exploring the relationship between the gradient and the tangent line in the context of level curves.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of the gradient vector and its relationship to the tangent line, questioning how the vector is selected and its significance in relation to the point (3,2).

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the geometric interpretation of the problem. There is an exploration of the need to identify a specific tangent vector from the infinite possibilities in the plane defined by the gradient.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and properties of vectors in relation to the tangent line and the gradient, indicating a potential gap in understanding the geometric implications of the gradient in this context.

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Homework Statement


If f(x,y) = xy, find the gradient vector \nabla f(3,2) and use it to find the tangent line to the level curve f(x,y) = 6 at the point (3,2)



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The Attempt at a Solution


f(x,y)=xy<br /> \Rightarrow\nabla f(x,y)=&lt;y,x&gt;,\nabla f(3,2)=&lt;2,3&gt;
\nabla f(3,2) is perpendicular to the tanget line, so the tangent line has equation
\nabla f(3,2)\cdot&lt;x-3,y-2&gt;=0... and so on

I understand that the dot product must be 0 if the two vectors are perpendicular.
What I don't get is how they pick the vector <x-3, y-2> given that the point were concered with is (3,2)
 
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As opposed to doing: <2,3>.<x,y>=0 you mean?
The set of vectors that are perpendicular to <2,3> lie in a plane don't they?
 
yeah they're in a plane. But <x-3,y-2> is not a plane?
 
If it were [the plane perpendicular to <2,3>] then the dot product would be zero for every value of x and y so the relation would be useless.

It follows that just knowing that <2,3> is perpendicular to the tangent you want is not good enough - you need a way to select the one you want out of the whole plane. How would you go about that? What is special about this tangent?
 
hi mrcleanhands! :smile:
mrcleanhands said:
What I don't get is how they pick the vector <x-3, y-2> given that the point were concered with is (3,2)

if (x,y) lies on the tangent plane, then the vector from (3,2) to (x,y) is a tangent at (3,2), and is parallel to <x-3, y-2> :wink:
 
It follows that just knowing that <2,3> is perpendicular to the tangent you want is not good enough - you need a way to select the one you want out of the whole plane. How would you go about that? What is special about this tangent?
I see, it has to lie on the point (2,3) which you get by taking a line from (3,2) to (x,y)

thanks to both of you!
 

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