Finding Acceleration in a Rotating Tube

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The problem involves a cylindrical particle sliding within a frictionless tube that rotates at a constant angular velocity. The goal is to determine the acceleration of the particle along the tube based on its position relative to the center.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need for a function representing the distance of the particle from the center to differentiate and find acceleration. There is uncertainty about how to derive this function and apply the relevant equations.

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Some participants have offered insights into the relationship between angular velocity and tangential velocity, while others are exploring the implications of different acceleration formulas. There is ongoing clarification regarding the definitions and roles of variables in the equations presented.

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Participants note the lack of a specific function for the distance r, which complicates the differentiation process necessary for finding acceleration. The discussion also reflects on the assumptions related to angular velocity and its impact on the particle's motion.

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Question goes something like:
A cylindrical particle is placed in a certain metre long, frictionless tube, where it can slide back and forth. If the particle is not positioned in the centre of the tube, then as the tube is turning at a constant angular velocity of U, determine the acceleration of the particle along the tube.

I understand from my textbook that the equation to use in such case should be
a_r = r "doubledot" (second derivative w.r.t time) - r x U^2
where r = the distance between the particle to the centre of the tube.

But I do not know how to work out r "doubledot".

Any help is much appreciated.
 
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you need a function that represents the distance r so you can differentiate it twice to get the acceleration (which is r double dot)
 
But I wasn't provided with any sort of function in relation to r. It's just a particle sliding inside a tube. ><
 
ah ok sorry i didnt see the angular velocity bit.

ok

Tangental velocity, v, is equal to angular velocity, w, times radius, r. Ie v/r = w. So if centripetal acceleration, a, is (v^2)/r you should be able to work out a in terms of r and/or w
 
Oh orite.

So what do I do with the formula

a = r double dot - r*w^2?

can I just ignore it and use a = r*w^2 instead?
 
its the same thing :) r double dot is simply the 2nd time derivative of r, which being a spatial value, is acceleration of that value.
 

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