Circular motion of a steel block

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Homework Statement


A .5 kg steel block rotates on a steel table, attached to a 1.20m-long hollow tube. Air is fed through the tube and is ejected from the block, giving it a thrust force of 5.21N perpendicular to the tube. Max tension the tube can withstand without breaking is 50N. Assume coefficient of kinetic friction between steel block and steel table is 0.60. If the block starts from rest, how many revolutions does it make before the tube breaks?[/B]
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Homework Equations


a_r = mv^2/r = omega^2 * R

The Attempt at a Solution


I have solved for the angular velocity and got 9.125. I'm not sure where to go from here or which equations to use. I think it might have something to do with the tangential acceleration, but I don't know how to find that.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Angular velocity when?
Have you drawn a free-body diagram for the block in motion?
I thought I solved for the *initial* angular velocity.

For the free-body diagram I have the tension force (not sure of the value of it), the frictional force, the thrust force, and then the normal force and gravity (which should cancel out). Am I missing something?
 
I thought I solved for the *initial* angular velocity.
From the problem statement post #1:
If the block starts from rest, how many revolutions does it make before the tube breaks?
...
I have solved for the angular velocity and got 9.125[rad/s]
... (my emph.)
How did you get 9.125rad/s from "at rest"?

Have you drawn a free body diagram for the block in motion?
 
Ok, so if the initial angular velocity is 0 and the final angular velocity is 9.125 rad/s, how can I calculate theta from the kinematics equations? With Theta_initial = 0 rad.

The free body diagram I described above is the free body diagram I have for the block in motion. Am I missing something?
 
Fnet_r = m*omega^2*r
50 = .5 * omega^2 * 1.2
omega = 9.13 rad/s

Fnet_t = m*a_t
2.27 (Thrust minus frictional force) = 0.5 * a_t
a_t = 4.54 m/s^2

Not sure where to go from here...
 
Figured it out! Neglected the fact that alpha = a_t / R -- once I realized that I was able to use the equations. Got theta final = 10.987 rad, comes out to 1.75 revolutions. Thanks for the help!
 
No worries.
It often helps just to talk it out even if you don't get the answers directly from feedback.
It does help us to help you quickly if you include your reasoning with your working.
Cheers.