Finding Angle and Intensity of Split Rocket at Maximum Height

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The problem involves a rocket launched from the ground at an initial velocity and angle, which splits into two equal mass parts at its maximum height. One part is fired straight up, and the task is to determine the angle and intensity of the second part.

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  • Participants discuss the components of velocity at maximum height and the implications of the rocket splitting into two parts. There are questions about the interpretation of "straight up" and how it relates to the motion of the rocket. Some participants express uncertainty about the horizontal and vertical components of the velocities involved.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants questioning each other's reasoning and calculations. Some have offered insights into the components of momentum and velocity, while others have pointed out potential errors in the interpretation of the problem setup.

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Participants note discrepancies between their calculations and those provided in a reference book, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the problem's conditions or assumptions about the motion of the rocket parts.

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A rocket is fired from from the ground at initial velocity of ##v_0## and at an angle ##\theta##. At its highest height it splits into 2 parts of equal masses. The first part is fired straight up and at velocity ##v_0/2##. Find the angle and intensity of the second part.

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
At its maximum height the velocity has only the x component which is ##v_0cos\theta##. The momentum is ##p_0=mv_0cos\theta##. Since it has only the x component and the part which divides has the y component the second part must have an equal y component. Mening the ##v_{2y}=v_{1y}=v_0/2##. That would make the change in the y component of the momentum ##0##. Since that starting condition has total momentum in x direction the ##v_2## part must have the x component equal to the ##v_0cos\theta##. The intensity would then be ##\sqrt{v_{2y}^2+v_{2x}^2}##. Does this seem right couse when i use it in the problem given by the books where this intial velocity is ##1000## the angle ##60## i get ##v_y=500\sqrt{2}## and the book gives ##v_y=1118##?
 
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When the problem says that the first part is fired straight up, I think it means straight up relative to someone on the ground - not straight up relative to the moving projectile.
 
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Your method sounds correct in general, though I get a different answer from you when using that approach. I think the book is correct.
Perhaps you could show your working in detail.
I think you may be going wrong in the horizontal component, what you label v2y
 
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Merlin3189 said:
Your method sounds correct in general, though I get a different answer from you when using that approach. I think the book is correct.
Perhaps you could show your working in detail.
I think you may be going wrong in the horizontal component, what you label v2y
At the max heigth the velocity has only the x-component which is ##v_0cos\theta=500m/s##. Since it then splits into two parts they both must have 0 net y velocity and 500m/s in the x-component. ##v_{1y}=500m/s## and ##v_{1x}=0##. From there it follows that the vertical component of the second velocity must be ##500m/s## in order for the y-components to cancel out.
The x component must be equal to ##m*500m/s##. So ##\frac{m}{2}v_{2x}=m500##. So it should be ##1000m/s## Now i get it right. I forgot the fact that the mass splits so i thought that i have full mass of velocity 2. Good now.
 
Exactly where I went wrong myself at first attempt!
 

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