Finding Maximum Height and Initial Velocity when only given angle and distance

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a circus performer being shot from a cannon at an angle of 40 degrees above the horizontal, aiming to clear a net placed 6 meters away. The goal is to determine the muzzle speed of the cannon and the height of the net, but the original poster expresses uncertainty about the necessary equations and approach.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use trigonometric relationships and projectile motion equations but struggles with the lack of initial velocity and time. Some participants suggest separating the problem into x and y components and using standard equations for constant acceleration.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting the use of different equations for horizontal and vertical motion. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct setup and assumptions, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the application of horizontal and vertical equations, particularly concerning the use of the distance of 6 meters in the vertical motion equations. The original poster is also uncertain about the meaning of variables in the equations.

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Homework Statement



A Circus performer is shot our of a cannon and shot over a net that is placed horizontally 6 meters from the cannon. When the cannon is aimed at an angle of 40 degrees above the horizontal, the performer is moving in the horizontal direction and just barely clears the net as he passes over it. What is the muzzle speed of the cannon and how high is the net?


Homework Equations


I have no idea, which is the problem



The Attempt at a Solution



assuming that R (sub) x is 6 I tried using the tan to solve for the hyp and then the maximum height but that was the wrong answer

I can't seem ti figure out how to find the velocity becasue all of the equations i have need the time
 
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hi uncertain22! welcome to pf! :wink:

in all these projectile problems, you need to do equations for the x and y directions separately (with accelerations 0 and -g, respectively) …

call the time "t", choose one of the standard constant acceleration equations for each direction, and solve …

what do you get? :smile:
 
I tried doing it in the x and y directions seperatley but I don't know how to figure out the Velocity in the x and y directions without having an original velocity to go with.

I tried doing the distance in the x and y directions in case that would help me somehow but it just kept coming out wrong

Also, what does u stand for in the acceleration equations?
 
hi uncertain22! :wink:
uncertain22 said:
I tried doing it in the x and y directions seperatley but I don't know how to figure out the Velocity in the x and y directions without having an original velocity to go with.

call the initial speed v …

now show us your equations :smile:

(u in s = ut + at2/2 is the initial speed in that direction)
 
v^2 = (v)(cos 40) + 2 (-9.8) (6)

i don't think that is right at all though
and I don't know if 6 is even correct I feel like I need to put it into x and y components I just don't know how
 
woops I think the (v times the cos of 40) is supposed to be squared too, I just forgot to type it in
 
(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

that's certainly a possible equation for the y-direction …

what would it mean? what would v be in this case? why is it useful?

(the 6 must be wrong, btw, it's a horizontal distance, and this is a vertical equation :redface:)

try a different vertical equation if that one won't work

(and then you'll need a horizontal equation also)

(i'm going to bed now, so someone else will have to take over :zzz: …)
 
how do I know which equations are vertical and which are horizontal?
 
hi uncertain22! :wink:

(just got up :zzz: …)
uncertain22 said:
how do I know which equations are vertical and which are horizontal?

well, they're your equations … you can make whatever equations you want :smile:

in the vertical direction, you need the standard constant acceleration equations, with a = -g

in the horizontal direction, a is 0, so you can just use the standard constant velocity equation :wink:

show us what you get :smile:
 

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