Finding basis of spaces and dimension

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The discussion revolves around finding a basis for the space of 2x2 matrices defined by the condition a + d = 0, where the matrix is represented as A = [a b; c d]. Participants are exploring the concepts of vector spaces and dimensions in the context of linear algebra.

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  • Participants are attempting to identify a suitable basis for the specified matrix space and are questioning the relationship between the elements of the matrices, particularly the condition a + d = 0. There are discussions about the representation of matrices and the implications of linear combinations.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions of basis and linear combinations, while others are seeking further understanding of these concepts. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the matrices in terms of basis elements, and some participants are questioning the terminology used in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Find a basis for each of the spaces and determine its dimension:
The space of all matrices A=[a b, c d] (2x2 matrix) in R^(2x2) such that a+d=0


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So I jumped at this question without knowing too much about spaces and dimensions, but:
I think a possible combination of basis can be: [1 0, 0 0]. [0 1, 0 0]. [0 0, 1 0] (not sure if [0 0, 0 -1] would be considered since d would be negative in this case) Also from that I assume the dimension is 3?
Truthfully even if I got it right, I do not even know what happened. Can someone conceptually tell me what I am doing exactly?
Thanks in advance.
 
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you need to come up with a basis, that has elements, such that any 2x2 matrix with a=d can be written as a linear sum of the basis elements.

clearly the basis elements will need to satisfy being a 2x2 matrix with d=a, you first element does not
 
note this is entirely equivalent to considering 4 component vectors in R^4, with x_1 = x_4

often the vector form is easier to conceptualise
 
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lanedance said:
you need to come up with a basis, that has elements, such that any 2x2 matrix with a=d can be written as a linear sum of the basis elements.

clearly the basis elements will need to satisfy being a 2x2 matrix with d=a, you first element does not

Can you explain to me how d=a, since a+d=0?
Also since I am actually having a hard time learning this on my own, can you tell me what you mean by "elements" and "linear sum"?
 
maximade said:
Can you explain to me how d=a, since a+d=0?
Also since I am actually having a hard time learning this on my own, can you tell me what you mean by "elements" and "linear sum"?
good pickup, should be a = -d

if you're not familair with those terms, you may need to do a bit of reading.. though i have been a little loose with terminiology

in post #4 i actually meant component and have changed accordingly

a basis, is a set of vectors that spans a vector space

an element is a member of a set, for example a vector in the basis set

a linear combination (or sum) is a vector addition with scalar multiplication
eg. if u,v are vectors, and a,b are scalars, then
w = au + bv is a linear combination

a set, S, of vectors spans a space if any vector in the space can be written as a linear combination of vectors in S
 
From a+ d= 0 you get d=-a as you say. You can then write
\begin{bmatrix}a & b \\ c & d\end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}a & b \\ c & -a\end{bmatrix}
= \begin{bmatrix}a & 0 \\ 0 & -a\end{bmatrix}+ \begin{bmatrix}0 & b \\ 0 & 0\end{bmatrix}+ \begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 \\ c & 0\end{bmatrix}
and the dimension and a basis should be clear.
 

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