Finding Complex Antiderivatives | Guidance for Tricky Functions

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The discussion revolves around finding the antiderivative of a complex function, with participants exploring various substitution methods and transformations to simplify the integration process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using substitutions such as u = x^2 and completing the square. There are attempts to factor out terms and considerations of trigonometric substitutions. Questions arise about the appropriateness of applying partial fraction decomposition and how to properly convert differentials during substitution.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided suggestions and attempted various approaches, including ordinary substitutions and partial fraction decomposition. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to navigate the complexities of the problem, with no clear consensus yet on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note challenges with integrating specific forms and the difficulty of managing substitutions, particularly in relation to changing variables from x to u. There is also mention of constraints related to the complexity of the function being integrated.

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Homework Statement


How would one go about finding the antiderivative to this function?
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The Attempt at a Solution


This problem has been rather tricky I have tried several attempts at the solution. My one solution consists of me factoring out the x^4. Looking for some guidance please.

Thank you!
 
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OmniNewton said:

Homework Statement


How would one go about finding the antiderivative to this function?
5c664275712dfef070bc027353aaecd0.png


Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


This problem has been rather tricky I have tried several attempts at the solution. My one solution consists of me factoring out the x^4. Looking for some guidance please.

Thank you!
I would start with an ordinary substitution, u = x2, and would complete the square in the radical. From there, a trig substitution seems promising.
 
Mark44 said:
I would start with an ordinary substitution, u = x2, and would complete the square in the radical. From there, a trig substitution seems promising.
OK I will work it out now thank you for the suggestion.
 
OK I gave your suggestion an attempt.
I've arrived at the following after the substitution from x ---> u completing the square----> and back to x.

(x^4-1)
x^2((x^2+1/4)^2+ (3/4)))^(1/2)
 
Where is the point in substituting back before integration?
u=x^2+1/2 (not 1/4) was my first idea as well, but then you still have an ugly sqrt(u) in the denominator.
 
if you let u= x^2+(1/2) I also have a hard time figuring out how to remove the dx and convert it to du if du= 2x
 
That's where the sqrt(u-1/2) comes in. Forgot the 1/2 in the previous post.
Hmm, u=x^2 is an easier substitution. The initial square root goes away anyway.

Thinking about it... standard partial fraction decomposition should work, with imaginary numbers to have the zero.
 
mfb said:
That's where the sqrt(u-1/2) comes in. Forgot the 1/2 in the previous post.
Hmm, u=x^2 is an easier substitution. The initial square root goes away anyway.

Thinking about it... standard partial fraction decomposition should work.

Should i apply partial fraction before or after u substitution. Also sorry for still not getting it but when I u substitute I'm still having a hard time figuring out how to change the integral from being with respect to x to respect to u.
 
Well, if u=x2, then x=+-sqrt(u) and du = 2x dx.

Partial fraction decomposition would be without substitution.
 

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