Finding constants of a quartic equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the constants A and B in the quartic polynomial 4x^4 + Ax^2 + 11x + b, given that it is divisible by x^2 - x + 2. The values determined are a = 4, A = 1, and B = -6, with emphasis on consistent labeling of parameters throughout the problem. Participants suggest using the factor theorem and matching coefficients to derive the constants. An alternative method involves substituting x^2 with x - 2, leveraging the roots of the quadratic factor. The conversation highlights the importance of clarity in variable representation to avoid confusion.
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Homework Statement
The polynomial ##4x^4+Ax^2+11x+b## where ##a## and ##b## are constants, is denoted by ##p(x)##. It is given that ##p(x)## is divisible by ##x^2-x+2##. Find the values of ##a## and ##b##
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factor theorem
##4x^4+Ax^2+11x+b##≡##(x^2-x+2)(ax^2+mx+d)##
≡##ax^4+(m-a)x^3+(d-m+2a)x^2+(2m-d)x+2d##

##a=4##
##m-a=0, m=4##
##d-m+2a=A##
##2m-d=11##
##2d=b##

##A=1##, ## B=-6 ## is that correct?
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: The polynomial ##4x^4+Ax^2+11x+b## where ##a## and ##b## are constants, is denoted by ##p(x)##. It is given that ##p(x)## is divisible by ##x^2-x+2##. Find the values of ##a## and ##b##
Relevant Equations:: factor theorem

##4x^4+Ax^2+11x+b##≡##(x^2-x+2)(ax^2+mx+d)##
≡##ax^4+(m-a)x^3+(d-m+2a)x^2+(2m-d)x+2d##

##a=4##
##m-a=0, m=4##
##d-m+2a=A##
##2m-d=11##
##2d=b##

##A=1##, ## B=-6 ## is that correct?
Yes.
 
@chwala :
Try to be consistent with labeling of parameters.
In the given quartic polynomial,you use ##A## and ##b##. The question then asks for values of ##a## and ##b##. Then in the unknown quadratic factor, you use ##a## which is all together different from previous ##a## or ##A##, although, by inspection you can determine that this ##a=4## .

In the answer, you have ##A## and ##B##.
 
That was a pretty easy question...i guess i was just over thinking on it... :biggrin: :cool:
 
SammyS said:
@chwala :
Try to be consistent with labeling of parameters.
In the given quartic polynomial,you use ##A## and ##b##. The question then asks for values of ##a## and ##b##. Then in the unknown quadratic factor, you use ##a## which is all together different from previous ##a## or ##A##, although, by inspection you can determine that this ##a=4## .

In the answer, you have ##A## and ##B##.
true, i had seen that but i just ignored ...noted
 
(Using uppercase ##A## and ##B## for the problem), I suppose you could say, if ##x^2-x+2## is a factor of ##4x^4+Ax^2-11x+B##, then by inspection, the other factor must be of the form ##4x^2+mx+\frac B 2 ##.

Multiplying the quadratics gives:
##\left(x^2-x+2\right) \left(4x^2+mx+\frac B 2 \right) = 4x^4+(m-4)x^3+\left(8-m+\frac B 2 \right)x^2 +\left(2m-\frac B 2\right)x +B##.

Match coefficients.

etc.
 
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Homework Statement:: The polynomial ##4x^4+Ax^2+11x+b## where ##a## and ##b## are constants, is denoted by ##p(x)##. It is given that ##p(x)## is divisible by ##x^2-x+2##. Find the values of ##a## and ##b##
Relevant Equations:: factor theorem

##4x^4+Ax^2+11x+b##≡##(x^2-x+2)(ax^2+mx+d)##
≡##ax^4+(m-a)x^3+(d-m+2a)x^2+(2m-d)x+2d##

##a=4##
##m-a=0, m=4##
##d-m+2a=A##
##2m-d=11##
##2d=b##

##A=1##, ## B=-6 ## is that correct?
Not sure it's any easier, but another method is to use ##x^2=x-2## to substitute for ##x^2##, first in the ##x^4## term, then in the resulting ##x^2## term.
The resulting linear expression must equal zero.
 
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haruspex said:
Not sure it's any easier, but another method is to use ##x^2=x-2## to substitute for ##x^2##, first in the ##x^4## term, then in the resulting ##x^2## term.
The resulting linear expression must equal zero.

i do not get this approach ##x^2=x-2## how? from where...
 
chwala said:
i do not get this approach ##x^2=x-2## how? from where...
If p(x) is divisible by ##x^2−x+2## then every solution of ##x^2−x+2=0## makes p(x) zero.
 
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aaaaaah...seen that..thanks haruspex
 

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