Finding Constants To A Limit Problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the constants a and b in the limit expression \(\lim_{x\rightarrow0}\frac{\sqrt{a+bx} -\sqrt{3}}{x} = \sqrt{3}\). Participants explore the implications of the limit and the conditions under which it exists, particularly focusing on the behavior of the numerator and denominator as x approaches zero.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants consider various values for a and discuss the implications of setting the numerator equal to zero. There is speculation about whether a can be zero and what values might be valid for a and b. Some participants suggest using the conjugate to analyze the limit further.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and questioning assumptions. Some have proposed specific values for a and b, while others are still exploring the implications of the limit and the conditions for its existence. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the limit results in a 0/0 indeterminate form, which raises questions about how to resolve it. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between the constants and the limit behavior.

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Find all the values of the constants a and b such that
\lim_{x\rightarrow0}\frac{\sqrt{a+bx} -\sqrt{3}}{x} = \sqrt{3}

I tried to multiply by the conjugate, but it indeed failed to give me any insight as to how to solve this problem. Could someone possibly prod me into the right direction?
 
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Hi Bashyboy! :smile:

Start with a …

what must a be?​

(can a = 0? 2? …)
 
So, in order to start this problem, we have to begin with speculation? There is no analytic way of solving for a? Well, I know it can't be zero, because then all you would have under the radical is zero.
 
Bashyboy said:
Find all the values of the constants a and b such that
\lim_{x\rightarrow0}\frac{\sqrt{a+bx} -\sqrt{3}}{x} = \sqrt{3}

I tried to multiply by the conjugate, but it indeed failed to give me any insight as to how to solve this problem. Could someone possibly prod me into the right direction?
Since the denominator → 0 , the only way for the limit to exist is for the numerator → 0 as x → 0. Right ?
 
Bashyboy said:
So, in order to start this problem, we have to begin with speculation?

No, but trying one or two values may help us to see what we need to avoid :wink:
 
Note that this is an equation with a limit on one side. The limit, if it converges evaluates to a number. So this is a relationship between two numbers.

Does the statement as provided imply the validity of any further statements? Equivalent ones that can be manipulated and better understood to reach an answer?

Consider that the given equation implies:

\frac{\lim_{x \to 0}\sqrt{a+bx}-\sqrt{3}}{\lim_{x \to 0}x} = \sqrt{3}

which implies:

\lim_{x \to 0}\sqrt{a+bx}-\sqrt{3} = \lim_{x \to 0}\sqrt{3}x

From this, you should be able to figure out certain restrictions on the variables a and b.
 
Noesis said:
Note that this is an equation with a limit on one side. The limit, if it converges evaluates to a number. So this is a relationship between two numbers.
It looks like it will be a valid two-sided limit when all is done.
Does the statement as provided imply the validity of any further statements? Equivalent ones that can be manipulated and better understood to reach an answer?

Consider that the given equation implies:

\frac{\lim_{x \to 0}\sqrt{a+bx}-\sqrt{3}}{\lim_{x \to 0}x} = \sqrt{3}
What you have written above is absolutely improper. The denominator you show is identically zero.
which implies:

\lim_{x \to 0}\sqrt{a+bx}-\sqrt{3} = \lim_{x \to 0}\sqrt{3}x

From this, you should be able to figure out certain restrictions on the variables a and b.
 
SammyS said:
Since the denominator → 0 , the only way for the limit to exist is for the numerator → 0 as x → 0. Right ?

Okay, so I set the numerator equal to zero, and took the limit of it, and I got a = 3; but now I am not sure where to plug in a = 3 so I can solve for b.
 
Bashyboy said:
Okay, so I set the numerator equal to zero, and took the limit of it, and I got a = 3; but now I am not sure where to plug in a = 3 so I can solve for b.

Since you have both your numerator and denominator approaching zero, that means you have a 0/0 indeterminate limit form. How do you solve such limits?
 
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Bashyboy said:
Okay, so I set the numerator equal to zero, and took the limit of it, and I got a = 3; but now I am not sure where to plug in a = 3 so I can solve for b.
Now that you have a =3, look at your result from multiplying by the conjugate. That should tell you what to use for b.
 
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Does it sound right that b = 6?
 
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Bashyboy said:
Does it sound right that b = 6?

Yep! That is correct :approve:
 
  • #13
Thank you all very much, all of you provided great insight.
 

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