Finding divF and curl F for F = r/r

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The discussion focuses on finding the divergence and curl of the vector field F = r/r, where r is defined as the position vector in three-dimensional space. The initial attempt at calculating the divergence results in an incorrect expression, prompting requests for assistance. Participants discuss the use of partial derivatives and the product rule in differentiation, highlighting the importance of careful application of these concepts. One user realizes they overlooked part of the product rule in their calculations, indicating a breakthrough in their understanding. The conversation emphasizes the complexity of vector calculus and the need for precision in mathematical operations.
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Homework Statement


F = \frac{<b>r</b>}{r}

Find divF
and curl F

Homework Equations


r = x\widehat{i} + y\widehat{j} + z\widehat{k}

r = \sqrt{(x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2})}

The Attempt at a Solution




F = \frac{x}{(\sqrt{x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2}})}\widehat{i} + \frac{y}{(\sqrt{x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2}})}\widehat{j} + \frac{z}{(\sqrt{x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2}})}\widehat{k}


div F = \frac{\partial}{\partial x} (x(x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2})^{\frac{-1}{2}} + \frac{\partial}{\partial y}(y(x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2})^{\frac{-1}{2}} + \frac{\partial}{\partial z}(z(x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2})^{\frac{-1}{2}}

Take the partial derivative of x first.

let u = x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2}
and a = xu^{2}

\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} = 2x
\frac{\partial a}{\partial u} = \frac{-1}{2}xu^{\frac{-3}{2}}

\frac{\partial a}{\partial x} = -x^{2}u^{\frac{-3}{2}}
= -x^{2}(\frac{1}{\sqrt{(x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2})}})^{3}

The other derivatives would give similar answers, and the final answer would be

-\frac{x^{2}}{r^{3}}-\frac{y^{2}}{r^{3}}-\frac{z^{2}}{r^{3}}

This is apparently the incorrect answer, can anybody help?
 
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The three parts that didnt come up are partial derivatives; du/dx da/du and da/dx

And the r as the numerator in the first equation is meant to be in bold to denote that it is a vector.
 
Hi ineedmunchies! :smile:

(here's √ and ² and ∂ for you to copy-and-paste
oh … and tags like B don't work in LaTeX
hmm … nice LaTeX apart from that, though! :smile:)
ineedmunchies said:
let u = x^{2} + y^{2} + z^{2}
and a = xu^{2}

\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} = 2x
\frac{\partial a}{\partial u} = \frac{-1}{2}xu^{\frac{-3}{2}}

ooooh … this is horrible … can't look … need air:cry:

Just use r² = x² + y² + z², so 2r∂r/∂x = … ? :smile:
 
hmmm sorry where are you getting 2r∂r/∂x from?
 
ineedmunchies said:
hmmm sorry where are you getting 2r∂r/∂x from?

Differentiating r² with respect to x. :smile:

(Chain rule: ∂r²/∂x = dr²/dr ∂r/∂x = 2r ∂r/∂x.)

(Can you read r² on your computer? if not, it's supposed to be r^2. :redface:)
 
ah actually never mind, I've worked it out. I had left out part of the product rule in my differentiation. I would post the full worked solution but its quite long and the forums seem to be running slow for me today.
 
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