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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the domain of the function $$h(x) = 1 / \sqrt[4]{x^2 - 5x}$$. Participants explore the conditions under which the expression is defined, particularly focusing on the inequality $$x^2 - 5x > 0$$ and its implications for the values of x.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the inequality $$x^2 - 5x > 0$$ leads to the conclusion that $$x > 5$$.
  • Another participant points out that the textbook answer includes the interval $$(\infty, 0) \cup (5, \infty)$$, suggesting that values less than 0 should also be considered.
  • A participant explains that the product of two numbers is positive if both are positive or both are negative, indicating that both cases need to be analyzed.
  • Further clarification is provided that if both factors are negative, the condition $$x < 0$$ and $$x < 5$$ must be satisfied.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of identifying critical points at $$x=0$$ and $$x=5$$ and suggests testing intervals around these points to determine where the expression is positive.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the domain of the function. There are competing views regarding the intervals that should be included in the domain, with some arguing for values less than 0 and others focusing solely on values greater than 5.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to consider both positive and negative cases for the factors in the inequality, and the discussion includes the identification of critical points and the testing of intervals, which may not be fully resolved.

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I need to find the domain of this function.$$h(x) = 1 / \sqrt[4]{x^2 - 5x}$$

So, I understand that I need to set

$$x^2 -5x > 0$$

from that I get

$$ x(x-5) > 0$$
and

$$ x > 5$$

However, the answer in the textbook is given:

$$ ( \infty, 0) \cup (5, \infty)$$

Which mean that the graph has a domain including x values of less than 0 and greater? Can someone explain this to me?
 
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tmt said:
I need to find the domain of this function.$$h(x) = 1 / \sqrt[4]{x^2 - 5x}$$

So, I understand that I need to set

$$x^2 -5x > 0$$

from that I get

$$ x(x-5) > 0$$
and

$$ x > 5$$

However, the answer in the textbook is given:

$$ ( \infty, 0) \cup (5, \infty)$$

Which mean that the graph has a domain including x values of less than 0 and greater? Can someone explain this to me?

Hi tmt,

The product of 2 numbers is positive if either both numbers are positive, or if both numbers are negative.

It appears you have only considered the case where both are positive.
What do you get if both numbers would be negative?
 
You have almost made it :

$$x(x - 5) > 0$$

As ILS said, both of the factors must be either positive or negative. If both are positive, then $x > 0$ and $x > 5$ and pick the larger of these two ($x > 5$) to make the product positive. If both are negative, $x < 0$ and $x < 5$ and you'd have to pick smaller of these two $(x < 0)$ to make this work. (Why?)
 
You have correctly determined:

$$x(x-5)>0$$

There are two points on the number line over which the expression on the left will change sign, and those two critical points are:

$$x=0,5$$

So, divide the real number line in the three intervals:

$$(-\infty,0),\,(0,5),\,(5,\infty)$$

Because all of the roots of the expression on the left are of odd multiplicity (they occur an odd number of times...once in this case), we know the sign of the expression will alternate across the three intervals.

So, pick a test value in any of the intervals, and check to see what the sign of the expression is for that test value. The let the signs of the other two intervals alternate with respect to your test interval. And finally, all intervals for which the sign is positive will be a part of your solution.
 

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