Finding dS in Polar: dx, dy, and More

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This discussion focuses on deriving the differentials dx and dy in polar coordinates and their application in calculating the area element dS. The formulas provided are: dx = cos(θ)dr - r sin(θ)dθ and dy = sin(θ)dr + r cos(θ)dθ. The area element dA is determined using the Jacobian, resulting in dA = r dr dθ. The transformation of area elements between coordinate systems is explained through the determinant of the transformation matrix, emphasizing the relationship between linear algebra and calculus.

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  • Knowledge of Jacobians and their application in coordinate transformations
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Ok, so we know that x=rcos(\theta)

So what is dx?

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Furthermore, can I get dS in polar by finding dx and dy in polar and then substituting them into dS for rectangular? Is there an easier way to solve for dS in polar?
 
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You can figure out the differentials dx and dy from the general formula for a multivariable differential: $$ x = x(r, \theta) = r \cos \theta \Leftrightarrow dx = \frac{\partial x}{\partial r}dr+\frac{\partial x}{\partial \theta}d\theta = \cos \theta\,dr - r \sin \theta\,d\theta $$
$$ y = y(r, \theta) = r \sin \theta \Leftrightarrow dy = \frac{\partial y}{\partial r}dr+\frac{\partial y}{\partial \theta}d\theta = \sin \theta\,dr + r \cos \theta\,d\theta $$
For the relation between the area elements dA, you have to use the Jacobian:
$$ dx dy = \frac{\partial(x,y)}{\partial(r,\theta)}dr\,d\theta = (r \cos^2 \theta + r \sin^2 \theta)\,dr\,d\theta = r\,dr\,d\theta
$$
This is also easily seen if you sketch out what is happening. If you change \theta by a small amount, you change one side of your area element by r\,d\theta. If you change r by a small amount, you change the other side of your area element by dr.
 
As you can see, JPaquim's formula for the Jacobian is simply the determinant of the transformation matrix between the differentials.
And if you remember your linear algebra, it is precisely the determinant of a square matrix that tells you of how the area is transformed when going from one set of basis vectors to another by means of matrix transformation.
 

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