Finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors 2x2 matrix

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The discussion revolves around finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a 2x2 matrix, specifically the matrix with repeated entries of 1. Participants explore the calculation of eigenvalues and the subsequent determination of eigenvectors based on these values.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of eigenvalues, with initial attempts leading to values of 0 and 2. There are questions about the correctness of these values and the process of finding corresponding eigenvectors. The discussion includes substituting eigenvalues back into the matrix and solving systems of equations to find eigenvectors.

Discussion Status

Several participants confirm the correctness of eigenvalues and eigenvectors, while others seek clarification on the process and notation. There is an ongoing exploration of different forms of eigenvectors and their validity, with productive guidance provided regarding the relationship between eigenvectors and their scalar multiples.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the representation of eigenvectors and the distinction between the original matrix and the modified matrix A - λI. There is also mention of specific eigenvector forms arising from different eigenvalues, highlighting the variability in representation.

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Find the eigenvalues and corresponding eigenvectors of the following matrix.

1,1
1,1


Here is my attempt to find eigenvalues:


1-lambda 1
1 1-lambda

Giving me:

(Lambda)^2 -2(lambda) = 0

lambda = 0 lambda = 2

Is this correct??
 
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Yes, this is good!
 
Great from there I get a little confused finding the eigenvectors. I sub the lambda values back into matrix but don't know where to go there.

lambda = 2 1-2 1
1 1-2

giving me: -1 1
1 -1

Where do I go next?
 
So you sub lambda into your matrix. This gives you a matrix A. Now you need to find a vector x such that Ax=0. This involves solving a system of equations. The solutions of that system should give you the eigenvectors...
 
Rite so I have the two following matrices from lambda values:

lambda = 2
-1, 1
1,-1

so that means -x1 + X2 = 0 AND x1 -x2 = 0 therefore x1 = x2

Am i on the rite track?
 
Yes, so all vectors of the form (x_1,x_1) are eigenvectors. Specifically, (1,1) is an eigenvector with eigenvalue 2...
 
Great so when eigenvalue = 2 eigenvector = (1,1)

When lambda = 0 I get the following matrix:

1 1
1 1

Now is this just saying x1 + x2 = 0 so x1 = -x2

eigenvector be (1,-1) ?
 
Yes, that is correct! (1,-1) is indeed an eigenvector of the matrix!
 
Fantastic thank you micromass.

Can I just ask you if this is correct?

matrix A = 2, 1
0, -1

Eigenvalues I get are:

2 and -1:

when lambda = 2:

0, 1
0, 0 So x2 = 0 therefore eigenvector is (1,0)

when Lambda = -1

3,1
0,0 n so 3x1 + x2 = 0 3x1 = -x2 so eigenvector is (-1/3, 1)

Correct?
 
  • #10
Correct! It seems you've got the idea!
 
  • #11
thnx micromass:)
 
  • #12
micromass said:
So you sub lambda into your matrix. This gives you a matrix A.
Actually that gives you A - \lambdaI, which is different from A (unless \lambda happens to be zero).
micromass said:
Now you need to find a vector x such that Ax=0.
I know what you mean, but what you really want is to find a solution of (A - \lambdaI)x = 0.
micromass said:
This involves solving a system of equations. The solutions of that system should give you the eigenvectors...
 
  • #13
Just quick question micromass for the post 7 I've sed eigenvector is (1,-1) should it be (-1,1) or are they both acceptable?
 
  • #14
Both are good. If x is an eigenvector and if \lambda\neq 0, then \lambda x is an eigenvector as well. In this case: (1,-1) is an eigenvector. So take \lambda=-1, then (-1,1) is an eigenvector as well!
 
  • #15
Ah rite I see so when lambda = 0 eigenvector is (1,-1)? Its just confusing as when matrix wa:

3,1
0,0

eigenvector is (-1/3,1) ?
 
  • #16
andrey21 said:
Ah rite I see so when lambda = 0 eigenvector is (1,-1)? Its just confusing as when matrix wa:

3,1
0,0

eigenvector is (-1/3,1) ?

Assuming this is A - \lambdaI, yes, <-1/3, 1> is an eigenvector, and so are <-1, 3>, <1/3, -1>, <1, -3>, and many more. You can easily check whether a vector x is an eigenvector with associated eigenvalue \lambda by verifying that Ax = \lambdax, or equivalently, that (A - \lambdaI)x = 0.
 

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