Finding Elasticity in Demand: Solving for p in the Demand Equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the values of price \( p \) for which the demand is elastic, based on the demand equation \( q = \left(\frac{20-p}{2}\right)^{2} \). Participants are exploring the concept of elasticity in the context of derivatives and demand equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definition of elasticity and how to determine when it is greater than one. There are attempts to derive the elasticity formula and set it to various values to explore the implications for \( p \). Questions arise about the validity of using different numbers for \( \eta \) and how to handle inequalities in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided calculations and insights into the inequalities that need to be solved for \( p \). There is an acknowledgment of the need to check assumptions regarding the range of \( p \) and the implications of the demand equation's constraints. Some guidance has been offered on how to approach solving the inequalities, but no consensus has been reached on a final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the demand equation is only valid for \( 0 \leq p \leq 20 \), which affects the range of possible solutions for the elasticity condition. There is also mention of the importance of correctly handling inequalities and the implications of multiplying by negative numbers during the solving process.

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Homework Statement



Derivatives and elasticity:
The demand equation for a product is q = \left(\frac{20-p}{2}\right)^{2} for 0 \leq p \leq 20.

a) find all values of p for which demand is elastic.

Homework Equations



Elasticity: \eta = \frac{p}{q} x \frac{dq}{dp}

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, I know that if it has to be elastic, then |η| > 1.
However, how do I show this.
Do I just set any number larger than 1 as η, and then solve for p and q?
 
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Can you first show me what \eta is equal to?
 
Do you mean η = p / q · dq / dp

q = ((20-p)/2)^2
q' = (p-20)/2

.: η = p / ((20-p)/2)^2 · (p-20)/2

And since I know |η| must be greater than 1, then do I set η to something such as -2? or use -10? That's the only part I don't clearly understand because I could use any number, would it always give the correct answer?

So would I use:

-2 = p / ((20-p)/2)^2 · (p-20)/2

Sorry I didn't use tex, but it honestly wasn't working at all. It'd just show random signs...
 
So I tried it:

η = p / q · dq / dp
1 = p / q · dq / dp
1 = p/((20-p)/2)^2 · (p-20)/2
... (some work) ...
1 = (2p-40)/(20-p)^2
20 - p^2 = 2p - 40
0 = -60 + 2p + p^2
p = -8.81 (inadmissible)
p = 6.81

So therefore, 6.81 < p < 20.

For those values of p, η is elastic. Does it look right?
 
That's good. Now you could simplify the expression by noticing that (20-p)^2=(p-20)^2 and cancelling, but it's not completely necessary. In fact, for the way I would go about solving the next task in this problem, it's actually better in the form it already is.

If we are told that for some number x, |x|&gt;1 then this means that x&lt;-1, x&gt;1 because if we use say, x=-2 then |-2|=2>1.

Now you need to solve both inequalities for p. \eta&gt;1 and \eta&lt;-1 and find the intersection between the range of p that you found. For example, if you find for the case where \eta&gt;1 that 1&lt;p&lt;3 and in the second case you find that 2&lt;p&lt;4, both cases need to hold for |\eta|&gt;1 so the answer would be 2&lt;p&lt;3.
 
Ok, never mind the post above, it was totally wrong already on the second step.

Anyways, this time I think I got it:

-1 = p/((20-p)/2)^2 · (p-20)/2
-1 = (2p^2-40p)/(20-p)^2
-(20-p)^2 = 2p^2 - 40p
-p^2 + 40p - 400 = 2p^2 - 40p
0 = 3p^2 - 80p + 400

p = 20/3, 20

Did the same using:
1 = p/((20-p)/2)^2 · (p-20)/2
... (work) ...
p = +- 20

Therefore, 20/3 < p < 20.
I believe that's it, however they don't give an answer.

Now I can check by plugging in 20/3 and (something less than) 20 as η, and hopefully |η| > 1.
 
You should be solving inequalities -

\frac{2p(p-20)}{(p-20)^2}&lt;-1

and

\frac{2p(p-20)}{(p-20)^2}&gt;1

But anyway you still get the same answer (remember that solving inequalities requires that you multiply through by a positive number, or by a negative number and reversing the sign - which is why having a perfect square in the denominator was better than simplifying).

So your range for |\eta|&gt;1 is 20/3&lt;p&lt;20 so yes, plugging in any value of p in that range will give your desired result. Plugging in 20/3 or 20 will give |\eta|=1.
 
Thanks.

So for:
1 = p/((20-p)/2)^2 · (p-20)/2

it would be:
1 < p/((20-p)/2)^2 · (p-20)/2
... (work) ...
1 < (2p^2-40p)/((20-p)^2
p^2 - 40p + 400 < 2p^2 - 40p
0 < p^2 - 400

p > 20 or P < -20

Is that how it would look like?
 
Yep that's it :smile:

But notice that the demand equation is only valid for 0\leq p\leq 20 so you can scratch those values - which means you will never actually get \eta&gt;1.
 
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Thanks!
 

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