Finding Equation of a Graph: Tips & Tricks

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a specific type of graph that oscillates between defined vertical boundaries. Participants explore mathematical concepts and operations that could model the described behavior, focusing on a linear shape with specific maximum and minimum values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to find the equation of a graph that oscillates, specifically mentioning a linear shape with a maximum of 12 and a minimum of 10.7.
  • Another participant provides a hint about a mathematical operation that grows to a point and then drops back, suggesting that the original poster should think of a function that behaves in this manner.
  • A participant suggests the Mod function as a potential solution, explaining how it operates and proposing a specific equation to model the graph.
  • The same participant offers to adjust the proposed equation based on additional information about the graph's characteristics, such as the positions of its corners.
  • The original poster acknowledges the proposed equation as what they were looking for and expresses intent to apply it to another graph.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single solution initially, but there is agreement that the Mod function could be a suitable approach. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to refine the understanding of the problem rather than a definitive resolution.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the information provided regarding the frequency of the oscillation and the specific characteristics of the graph beyond the vertical boundaries. The discussion relies on the interpretation of mathematical operations and their applications to the graph in question.

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I am wondering how to go about finding the equation of a graph of the following form. I understand how to make a graph oscillate but not in this way.

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Please, don't anyone just blurt out what the answer is. Let him figure it out.

Hint: Of all the math operations you have ever seen, can you think of one where it grows up to a certain point and then suddenly drops back to the starting value and does this over and over again? Think until you remember that one. Now you might not have ever thought about plotting that, but plot it now and see what it looks like. This will not look exactly like what you have above. So what do you remember about Math 100 that would tell you how to make little changes until you get it to look like what you have above.
 
Bill Simpson said:
Please, don't anyone just blurt out what the answer is. Let him figure it out.

Hint: Of all the math operations you have ever seen, can you think of one where it grows up to a certain point and then suddenly drops back to the starting value and does this over and over again? Think until you remember that one. Now you might not have ever thought about plotting that, but plot it now and see what it looks like. This will not look exactly like what you have above. So what do you remember about Math 100 that would tell you how to make little changes until you get it to look like what you have above.

No I can't think of one hence why I asked. I am just looking for a straight answer so I can analyse my data not learn mathematics since I am not a mathematician or trying to be one. This isn't for any sort of homework or something if that's why your being cryptic.



I forgot to clarify in the 1st post i just noticed. The graph actually only goes so high. and only drops so far. It is also linear in shape. The highest point is 12 the lowest is 10.7 and the drops are at regular intervals.
 
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The Mod function, which means the remainder after division, looks a lot like what you want. You provided information on the vertical boundaries but not how often it repeats. So I'll guess that 12-((x+.65)mod 1.3) might be what you are looking for.

To try to explain mod 1.3 to you,
2.6=2*1.3+0 so 2.6 mod 1.3=0
2.7=2*1.3+0.1 so 2.7 mod 1.3=0.1
etc.
So in that equation above, you pick any value for x, add .65, either use division or subtraction to remove as many multiples of 1.3 as possible until the result is less than 1.3 but greater than zero and 12-your result will be what you want to plot on a graph.

Here is a graph of that for you
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=graph+12-((x+.65)+mod+1.3)
Gently adjust the constants to get it closer to what you need. Or tell me the position of the upper left and lower right corners of anyone of your diagonal lines and I'll give you a tweaked equation for your plot.

Or if you need some other way of describing this then try to tell me how you need this done and I'll see what I can do.
 
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yes that is exactly what I was looking for now to figure out how to apply this to the other graph I have to hopefully get some results! Thanks for the help.
 

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