Finding Force Constant of a Spring

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The problem involves a block sliding on a rough surface that compresses a spring after colliding with it. The block's mass, initial speed, and the coefficient of kinetic friction are provided, and the goal is to determine the spring's force constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy, potential energy, and work done against friction. Questions arise about calculating the frictional force and its role in the energy balance.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various aspects of the problem, including the calculation of frictional force and its implications for determining the spring constant. Some guidance has been offered regarding the energy balance, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to find the spring constant.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the calculation of potential energy in a horizontal setup, and participants are questioning the assumptions made about the normal force and frictional force.

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Homework Statement


A 1.80 kg block slides on a rough, horizontal surface. The block hits a spring with a speed of 1.95 m/s and compresses it a distance of 14.0 cm before coming to rest. If the coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the surface is µk = 0.560, what is the force constant of the spring?


Homework Equations



k=2U/x^2

The Attempt at a Solution


k=2(0.560)/0.14^2
 
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Hi court2011, welcome to PF.
The kinetic energy of the block is utilized to do the work to overcome the friction and compress the spring.
What is the frictional force?
 
hi! the problem doesn't say so I am assuming i have to find it given the coefficient of kinetic friction?
 
Kinetic energy of the block = Potential energy of the spring + work done against the frictional force.
 
ok so potential energy is = mgy but if its going horizontal isn't y=0 so the potential energy is 0?
 
Potential energy stored in the spring is 1/2*k*x^2.
 
ok i need to find k so how do i get the potential energy without having k in the equation?
 
First of all find the frictional force.
Then using 1/2*m*v^2 = Fr*x + 1/2*k*x^2 find k.
 
is Fr where i am supposed to insert the frictional force? because i did and I still got the problem wrong but equation seems right how do i find the frictional force isn't it fk=ukN?
 
  • #10
I am refereeing Fr as fk which is equal to μk*N. Now what is the normal force?
 
  • #11
ma which is 1.8*1.95=3.51
 
  • #12
The normal force is mg.
Frictional force is μk*mg.
 

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