Finding Friction Coefficient of Masses GA and GB

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The discussion revolves around determining the friction coefficient (μ) between two blocks, A and B, with given masses GA and GB. The scenario involves block B moving downward at a constant speed, while block A is affected by the gravitational force and friction. The problem also includes a situation where a cat jumps onto block A, affecting the system's dynamics.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the blocks, including gravity and friction, and attempt to establish relationships between these forces. Some participants suggest equations to unify the forces, while others express confusion about the acceleration and its implications.

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There are various attempts to derive the friction coefficient and understand the system's behavior. Some participants offer simplified interpretations of the problem, while others struggle with the complexity of the equations involved. No consensus has been reached, and multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Participants note the urgency of the homework deadline and the challenge of simplifying the problem. There is mention of ignoring certain elements, like the cat, to focus on the primary forces at play.

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Homework Statement


Blocks A and B have mass of Ga and Gb respectively. Wire has no mass, it starts moving so that B has constant speed downward


Homework Equations


1.Find μ (frictionkoeficient) regarding GA og GB.
2.When system start moving a cat with weight Ga jums on block A and system stops ( falls into equilabration ) Show that acceleration is proven by this formula :
a= - (μGA / (2GA + 2GB) ) * g

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Start by enumerating the forces that act upon the two blocks. Ignore the cat for now.
 
You mean like this ?
 

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I mean Block A: gravity, friction ... and later a cat
Block B : gravity

In order to unify them you place them in an equation:

Ffriction=Fgravity

Ffriction=μGag

Fgravity=Gbg

Have fun
 
ok here is how I attempt to solve the case
Take a look at the pic

step 1 regarding 3)
Since there is no mass on "wheel" F(res) = m(wheel) * a = 0*a = 0
step 2 regarding 3)
K = \sqrt{}((SxS)+(SxS) = \sqrt{}2 * S
step 3 regarding 1)
Newtons 2. in
x direction gives S - R = Ma
y direction gives N = Mg
step 4 regarding 2)
y direction mg - S = ma

if we add S-R = Ma and mg - S = ma we end up with
(M+m)a = mg - R
since R = μ * N and N = Mg
(M+m)a = mg - ( μ * Mg)
-μ * mg - mg - Mg = a (M+m)
μ*mg = Ma + ma - Mg * mg hence
μ = (Ma + ma - Mg * mg)/ mg

whatever I try it does not leave me with Mg or/and mg alone in equation...
 

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can someone please help me need to do this by tomorrow :(
 
I will not read all of the above because it is much too much...
The problem is simple ... not complicated.
B pulls A at a constant velocity which means that the friction of A is equal to the pulling force of B which is a gravitational pull.
That means that μGag=Gbg from which we get μ=Gb/Ga just as simple as that.
About the second part I don't get what acceleration it is all about but maybe some else undestands.
 

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