Finding g on unknown planet given only total time and a random height

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The problem involves determining the acceleration due to gravity (g) on an unknown planet based on the motion of a ball thrown upward. The scenario includes specific measurements of time and height, with the ball passing a windowsill at a known height and time intervals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply kinematic equations but expresses confusion over their calculations and the relationships between average velocity and final velocity. Some participants question the validity of the original poster's approach and suggest revisiting the equations used.

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Participants are actively discussing various approaches to the problem. One participant has provided a hint regarding the use of specific kinematic equations to derive relationships between variables, indicating a potential direction for further exploration.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has acknowledged a flawed attempt at a solution and is working within the constraints of the problem, specifically the given time intervals and height measurements. There is an indication of trial and error in the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


Been working on this for the past hour or so and seem to be going in circles; finally decided to call in the cavalry:

You land on an unknown planet somewhere in the universe that clearly has weaker gravity than Earth. To measure g on this planet you do the following experiment: A ball is thrown upward from the ground. It passes a windowsill 11.0 m above ground and is seen to pass by the same windowsill 2.00 s after it went by on its way up. It reaches the ground again 5.00 s after it was thrown. Calculate the magnitude of g (the acceleration due to gravity) at the surface of this planet.


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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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The cavalry can't help you without first seeing your attempt at a solution! What formulas are you tinkering with?
 
Sorry, my first attempt was flawed because I mistakenly equated Vavg.= (Vfinal+Vinitial)/2 and from that eventually came up with the equation 4t*deltaY*(2Vfinal-Vavg)+Vavg=Vfinal and used the reference point of t=1.5s and y=11m to solve for Vfinal. That (probably obviously) didn't work so now I've used the equation y=Vi+Vi*t+(1/2)at2 after I plugged in the same reference point I got it down to a=(11-2.5Vi)/(1.125).

I can't seem to get past here. Thanks!
 
I agree, this one takes a bit of thinking and some trial and error!

My hint would be that you need to use s=ut+\frac{1}{2}at^2 (1) and s=vt-\frac{1}{2}at^2 (2). Using these, you can get an expression for u in terms of a, and then put back into (1) to finally get an answer.
 

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